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Originally Posted by danimal92sport View Post
Three questions for you all:

1. Has anyone weighed this bike?
I weighted mine loaded with my mountain bike pedals, bottle cages, and a loaded saddle bag. 24.27 pounds.

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2. Is there a front fender eyelet on the fork?
3. How wide of a tire will this thing fit with and without fenders? I'm looking for
40c capability with fenders, but I have a feeling this one won't do that.

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This bike is actually for my kid, same size as me. He is at Performance right now getting sized up.
My kid is getting a commuter and is pretty gassed!
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Ha, my kid got sized and low & behold his size is 50cm with this Old Turnpike bike. He has it ordered.
Thank you Dave, for you help with sizing.
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Originally Posted by Dave Cutter View Post
I weighted mine loaded with my mountain bike pedals, bottle cages, and a loaded saddle bag.
Looks like that's <25lb (hard to read) - not bad! Thanks for checking and I have that same scale; $7 shipped and it's pretty darn accurate!

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Looks like that's <25lb (hard to read) - not bad! Thanks for checking and I have that same scale; $7 shipped and it's pretty darn accurate!
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Sorry..... 24.27 pounds. Fully loaded. I would guess the standard (stripped) 54cm to be about 22 1/2 pounds.

Not a bad weight for such big (700X35) semi-knobby tires, disc brakes, and hefty rear triangle IMHO. The rims can be used as tubeless... although the stock tires... not so much. So the bike has big tubes in the tires at this weight too. But when these tires wear out a bit I might try tubeless. And maybe shave a little more weight (from the right place) in the process.

But the real deal for me is just getting to try this "new" style of bicycle. I've been a road bike cyclists since I was 13 (back in the 1960's). I was driving and then in the Army... when mountain bikes evolved (and I missed mtn biking). And was a grown man with a child of my own... when BMX became a thing (never thrown a leg over a BMX). As slow as bicycles evolve... and at my age.... this might be the best chance I have to play with the latest bicycle "thing".

I finished accessorizing the bike. Maybe a tad too matchy-matchy.
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Just checked and found that Performance Bikes only have 2 more of the size 54 and they are completely out of stock on this bike. That was a fast sell!
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Just checked and found that Performance Bikes only have 2 more of the size 54 and they are completely out of stock on this bike. That was a fast sell!
I wonder if it was that good of a seller.... or if the supply was just limited. I'd like to think that the gravel grinder idea is popular. And... if the idea of gravel or adventure cycling is appealing... that bike is priced right.
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Originally Posted by Dave Cutter View Post
Sorry..... 24.27 pounds. Fully loaded. I would guess the standard (stripped) 54cm to be about 22 1/2 pounds.

Not a bad weight for such big (700X35) semi-knobby tires, disc brakes, and hefty rear triangle IMHO. The rims can be used as tubeless... although the stock tires... not so much. So the bike has big tubes in the tires at this weight too. But when these tires wear out a bit I might try tubeless. And maybe shave a little more weight (from the right place) in the process.

But the real deal for me is just getting to try this "new" style of bicycle. I've been a road bike cyclists since I was 13 (back in the 1960's). I was driving and then in the Army... when mountain bikes evolved (and I missed mtn biking). And was a grown man with a child of my own... when BMX became a thing (never thrown a leg over a BMX). As slow as bicycles evolve... and at my age.... this might be the best chance I have to play with the latest bicycle "thing".

I finished accessorizing the bike. Maybe a tad too matchy-matchy.
No such thing as too matchy-matchy, my friend. Thanks again for the info & review, though you wouldn't happen to know if it can fit a 40c tire and fenders, eh? I'm guessing it wouldn't clear that set up, but I'd ideally want to be able to run my studded tires in the winter with fenders for commuter duty.

BTW, I'm in Columbus, Indiana - I'm guessing you're in Bloomington?

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... you wouldn't happen to know if it can fit a 40c tire and fenders, eh? I'm guessing it wouldn't clear that set up, but I'd ideally want to be able to run my studded tires in the winter with fenders for commuter duty.
The bike comes with 35's... and looks like plenty of room for even bigger tires. But... I honestly can't say I've ever even seen a 40. So just don't know. Same with fenders. [I've] Never attached a fender.

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... I'm in Columbus, Indiana - I'm guessing you're in Bloomington?

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Much further to the right... think Ohio border.
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Originally Posted by danimal92sport View Post
No such thing as too matchy-matchy, my friend. Thanks again for the info & review, though you wouldn't happen to know if it can fit a 40c tire and fenders, eh? I'm guessing it wouldn't clear that set up, but I'd ideally want to be able to run my studded tires in the winter with fenders for commuter duty.

BTW, I'm in Columbus, Indiana - I'm guessing you're in Bloomington?

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When I was shopping this bike, Performance Bikes was big on getting me to swap out these tires for 40c tires. They knew I ride a lot on the C & O canal and the 35c's on the bike wouldn't be good on this canal ride with the big guy I am. So I'm assuming since they were pushing this to me, 40c's fits.


***Note, I just reread your post, not sure about knobbies and fenders....sorry.

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I ordered a new (10mm) shorter stem from China...
Why did you order the stem from China as opposed to one of the well known online stores—especially the ones in England with the great prices?

(Sorry for the public off-topic post, but I haven't posted enough to gain the privilege of private messaging.)
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And now they're officially sold out! I received mine today so I'll be testing it out this weekend.
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Why did you order the stem from China as opposed to one of the well known online stores—especially the ones in England with the great prices?

(Sorry for the public off-topic post, but I haven't posted enough to gain the privilege of private messaging.)
I buy a few things direct. Sure... price is one consideration. But I also like the idea of direct marketing, not that I've found anyway to exploit that. Other than the occasional cheap item.

After I bought the Gravel bike... my thoughts turned to accessories.

I had some spare bottle cages. I found two different pedal brands I already had... shared the exact same internal parts. Since one needed a missing part and the other pair has stiff bearings... I cannibalized one to create a free pair of pedals.

Then I turned my attention to Amazon for a new saddle bag or a maybe a rack and trunk bag or both (maybe even rack bags). I also wanted water bottles, decided I needed a bicycle sized torque wrench, and a couple other items (one being a shorter stem). I may have got caught-up with the fun of shopping/ordering.

Thankfully.... I stopped myself before I ordered the orange handlebar tape.
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I received mine today so I'll be testing it out this weekend.
I hope your experience is as positive as mine.

Since I've almost always been a road bike guy.... the fat tires were an unexpected HOOT of fun. I even experimented a little with a wet grassy area, and a couple small potholes. The bike goes anywhere I'd care to take it.

Every winter I struggle through bad weather... and ALWAYS revisit the mountain bike areas at the LBS's. But I know I am just not interested in the mtn bike trails. This bike expands my cycling season... and adds a new experience to my cycling as well. It's a fun and capable ride.

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Wow! They even pulled it off of Performance Bikes site. Which makes me believe they are not planning on getting anymore in. I'm so very bummed that I didn't get one!!!!!!!
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Every winter I struggle through bad weather... and ALWAYS revisit the mountain bike areas at the LBS's. But I know I am just not interested in the mtn bike trails. This bike expands my cycling season... and adds a new experience to my cycling as well. It's a fun and capable ride.[/QUOTE]


I bought the Jamis Renegade for this exact reason, I have a hard time taking my vintage steel road bikes out in the snow and salt.
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Wow! They even pulled it off of Performance Bikes site. Which makes me believe they are not planning on getting anymore in. I'm so very bummed that I didn't get one!!!!!!!
One thing I know about retail is... there will always be a sale... always. There will be more chances to buy other Gravel Bikes.
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Wow! They even pulled it off of Performance Bikes site. Which makes me believe they are not planning on getting anymore in. I'm so very bummed that I didn't get one!!!!!!!
Just checked performance website and there is a 54 cm available.
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I think I've discovered a couple of ways that Performance cut corners on this bike. One, the cable hosing seems to be rather cheap stuff, it's very stiff and at least one of my cables is already showing signs that it will soon have multiple circular cracks. It's nothing that can't be fixed with new housing and cable, but recabling a bike is a PITA and costs around $35 if you go for something decent like Jagwire.

That leads me to the second and more serious problem: the paint. After one ride through the mud I've got light scratches all over one fork and really noticeable wear on the head tube and the top of the fork from cable rub, down to the carbon in the later case. Taking a closer look it's now obvious that there isn't a protective clear coat on this bike and that even with reasonable care it's quickly going to acquire lots of paint damage. This is especially disappointing in a bike that's designed for dirt roads and worse.

So I you haven't already, make sure that you put protective tape anywhere the cables come in contact with the frame, the spots where the handlebar can hit the frame and get ready to replace the tape on the chain stay as mine is already starting to peel.
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I think I've discovered a couple of ways that Performance cut corners on this bike.......
I like the "flat finish" on the bike. But I am not surprised if it isn't all that durable either.

I am content with the bike. My saddest discovery.... is just how little gravel (unpaved roads) remain in my area. I've put several decent rides on the bike... and have enjoyed the ease of riding over shallow pot holes and soft lawns. But I've yet to ride anything difficult. I've been doing a little map searching.

I normally keep my bikes very clean... some might say spotless. The Old Turnpike... I haven't washed (or even oiled) yet. The reason is simple... the go anywhere purpose of the gravel bike implies a certain acceptance of dirt, grit, and maybe even scuff marks, and wear.

So I plan to relax my pristine standards when it comes to the Old Turnpike.
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New to the forum here.
I bought this bike in Nov. and I like it so far. I am actually surprised how fun it is to ride considering how much of a roadie I am.
Anyway, I saw someone post you could put up to a 34T on the cassette and am wondering if this is correct. I did put a slightly used 11-32 cassette on the bike when it arrived and had no issues getting it to work well but I'm thinking I need a little more on the back for the Oklahoma dirt roads (my part of the state is far from flat).
Thanks in advance!

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Originally Posted by pjrobar View Post
I think I've discovered a couple of ways that Performance cut corners on this bike. One, the cable hosing seems to be rather cheap stuff, it's very stiff and at least one of my cables is already showing signs that it will soon have multiple circular cracks. It's nothing that can't be fixed with new housing and cable, but recabling a bike is a PITA and costs around $35 if you go for something decent like Jagwire.
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Just a suggestion- call a few bikes shops in your area to see how much loose housing and single cables cost.
Also, if you have a co-op/collective in your area, check there.

Stainless cables cost $1.50 each at my collective and $3 at a couple bike shops.
Housing costs $1-3/foot depending on where i get it.

This is of course more expensive per foot than just ordering a 25' roll of jagwire compressionless lined slick housing for $20 online.
Sunlite lined brake housing is $12 for 50' of housing in bulk.


It costs me about $10 to cable a bike with stainless cables and quality lined housing from bulk.
Itd cost peobably $16 if i bought everything 1 time from a shop.

Those jagwire cable kits are seriously expensive.
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New to the forum here.
I bought this bike in Nov. and I like it so far. I am actually surprised how fun it is to ride considering how much of a roadie I am.
I feel exactly the same. In fact... I've only taken my daily rider out once this year... and we've had some decent weather here. I think a gravel bike is a great addition to add a little fun and versatility to my road cycling. I am still looking for more challenging local road surfaces... but even on just spring potholed side streets... this bike is fun.

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Anyway, I saw someone post you could put up to a 34T on the cassette and am wondering if this is correct. I did put a slightly used 11-32 cassette on the bike when it arrived and had no issues getting it to work well but I'm thinking I need a little more on the back for the Oklahoma dirt roads (my part of the state is far from flat).
Thanks in advance!

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I read that as well.... and was thinking of trying the same mod myself. But then I half-wondered if that wasn't my lazy winter legs thinking for me . Please.... Let me know if that works out!
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Gone.

No longer listed at the Performance website.
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Gone.

No longer listed at the Performance website.
Unless they bring the Old Turnpike back...... this bike will only be around for a handful of us to enjoy for a while. And maybe be a useless little bit bike trivia in a couple years.

I've read... for some time, both here and from Grant Petersen the benefit of "larger" tires on road bikes. I always discarded such an idea of wide tires on a road bike. But the Gravel bike idea made me rethink the concept... and I am glad I did. Although... I'll continue putting 23C's on my road bikes..... I really like the comfort and utility of those 35's on the Old Turnpike.

Disc brakes on a road bike! I'd never had disc brakes before (and I don't ride mountain bikes). I am glad I've tried them.... but for anything with smaller tires (like 700X25c)... they would be extras hassle for no benefit. And YES... disc brakes ARE more hassle.
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