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How to create your own gravel event?

Old 01-09-17, 10:22 AM
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very cool! hopefully the weather is good and there is a nice first year turnout. 60mi of SWIA gravel hills should be fun.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
very cool! hopefully the weather is good and there is a nice first year turnout. 60mi of SWIA gravel hills should be fun.
I was talking to one of my good riding buddies last night. He doesn't typically enjoy gravel riding but he will do it for an event that I've created LOL I'm still trying to sway him. Anyways he said several years ago there was a lady over at Essex Iowa that kept trying to get regular rides going although I doubt they were gravel. And he said she never could get very many people there or show up and she quit doing it. Basically in the area we live in there's not a lot of bicycle Riders. So I'm hoping that plenty of people from the city will make the commute down to have some fun with us. It is a nice area for gravel riding and I'm thinking that year after year I can create a different course and never run the same course twice.
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Good. Having a name for the ride helps a lot.

I liked your facebook writeup. Add the mile mark at each of the stop locations, and expand on the description of the hills, typical height and grade, and mention the biggest climbs separately. What's it like there? Farms and what else? What's the gravel surface like? Which parts are paved? More photos!

Browsing the map, the hills mostly have reasonable grades, under 5%, and the climbs are under 150 feet high. (As compared to 300 foot 12% grades, for instance, which would be a lot harder.) So I'd describe the route in a little more detail, section by section.

It's kind of a group ride. You'll likely have both fast, impatient riders, and slower cruising riders. It would be nice if you can have a couple of riders, one to go with a faster group, and one to hang back with the slowest riders. But the faster riders often have GPS and can do their own navigation. You'll be more likely to get some slower riders to come out if they know they won't be dropped immediately. With a 60 mile distance, you'll likely avoid the extremely slow riders.

I post my typical flat road speeds on rides that I lead, so I don't get either extremely slow riders or extra fast riders coming for the ride. And my rides are labeled "no-drop", I wait and either count riders at the turns or have a sweeper rider volunteer, who stays with the slowest rider. When I see the sweeper, I know we are all there.

The "10-13 mph pace" is a large range. I'd pick a number, for instance, "We plan to have average speeds for the whole ride of 12-13 mph, including flat gravel road speeds of 13-15 mph, and paved roads at 16-18 mph". And "we expect to have a faster group doing it's own navigation". Or just say that there's no support, riders need to be self sufficient and able to navigate themselves. But that may reduce your turnout, which might not be a bad idea for the first year, less stressful.

If you can get some other riders to help out, you could even have a shorter route that cuts off the loop from mile 31 to mile 45.

About the ridewithgps map: Edit and make a couple of changes:

Select Terrain from the Map pulldown. Then when you save the changes, it'll display that way. When you save it, change the name to "SWIG Tour 2017", it'll keep the same map with a new name. Put the date in the description, and perhaps a link to the ride web page.

See the Add POI (Points of Interest) at the right, zoom way in for an accurate location, and click in the route to mark any water locations or convenience stores. You can add a description for each point. Edit the route to ride past the stops, they shouldn't be any distance off the route.

Clean up the cue sheet if needed. Some riders still navigate this way! You can to edit the turns by clicking the little flag on the route, either deleting unneeded cues, renaming the street, or adding another cue entry at a confusing location.

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Too bad it's a 10 hour drive for me. Too far away!

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Old 01-09-17, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by rm -rf
Good. Having a name for the ride helps a lot.

I liked your facebook writeup. Add the mile mark at each of the stop locations, and expand on the description of the hills, typical height and grade, and mention the biggest climbs separately. What's it like there? Farms and what else? What's the gravel surface like? More photos!

It's kind of a group ride. You'll likely have both fast, impatient riders, and slower cruising riders. It would be nice if you can have a couple of riders, one to go with a faster group, and one to hang back with the slowest riders. But the faster riders often have GPS and can do their own navigation. You'll be more likely to get some slower riders to come out if they know they won't be dropped immediately.

I post my typical flat road speeds on rides that I lead, so I don't get either extremely slow riders or extra fast riders coming for the ride. And my rides are labeled "no-drop", I wait and either count riders at the turns or have a sweeper rider volunteer, who stays with the slowest rider. When I see the sweeper, I know we are all there.

About the ridewithgps map: Edit and make a couple of changes:

Select Terrain from the Map pulldown. Then when you save the changes, it'll display that way. When you save it, change the name to "SWIG Tour 2017", it'll keep the same map with a new name. Put the date in the description, and perhaps a link to the ride web page.

See the Add POI (Points of Interest) at the right, zoom way in for an accurate location, and click in the route to mark any water locations or convenience stores. You can add a description for each point. Edit the route to ride past the stops, they shouldn't be any distance off the route.

Clean up the cue sheet if needed. Some riders still navigate this way! You can to edit the turns by clicking the little flag on the route, either deleting unneeded cues, renaming the street, or adding another cue entry at a confusing location.
I am a free member to ride with gps so I am not sure how many of those extra privileges I have. When I get time I will look into these changes. I have not ridden this particular course yet but I have ridden similar ones using the basic course. I added a few subtle changes. I myself am considered a stronger rider by others although I do not feel like any more than a middle of the pack rider. I average 10 to 14 mph on rides depending on length and elevation gain.
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Originally Posted by trail_monkey
I am a free member to ride with gps so I am not sure how many of those extra privileges I have. When I get time I will look into these changes. I have not ridden this particular course yet but I have ridden similar ones using the basic course. I added a few subtle changes. I myself am considered a stronger rider by others although I do not feel like any more than a middle of the pack rider. I average 10 to 14 mph on rides depending on length and elevation gain.
It all works on the free ridewithgps membership. You can add POIs, change the map style, and edit the cue sheet. It's fast and easy to do.

The pay membership adds some features like grouping a series of rides into a named event page, and some nice pdf output options for maps and/or cue sheets. But you don't need those.

Here's an example route with POIs (restrooms, cafe) and the Terrain map:
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/4219796

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Good luck with your ride/event, and keep in mind many events grow with time. From looking at the calendar on Gravel Cyclist it looks like you picked a good weekend in regards to any rides in that general area, which could help those looking for some new "local" gravel. Also make sure you get a few rides on the actual course to better explain any conditions that may exist in various weather conditions that may be experienced during your ride. I wish there were more rides like this closer to me!
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Good luck trailmonkey, hope it works out!...kind of far away for me, but you never know.

One suggestion: Have you posted anything on your Facebook page yet? I don't see anything other than the banner/title. However, that might be because I'm not a member of FB so I'm not signed in. Anyway, I know FB pages can be set to be publicly viewable, so if not already done so, consider doing that in the interest of reaching the widest audience.
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Awesome, glad to hear you planned an event! If I were closer I would definitely participate.
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Originally Posted by af2nr
Good luck with your ride/event, and keep in mind many events grow with time. From looking at the calendar on Gravel Cyclist it looks like you picked a good weekend in regards to any rides in that general area, which could help those looking for some new "local" gravel. Also make sure you get a few rides on the actual course to better explain any conditions that may exist in various weather conditions that may be experienced during your ride. I wish there were more rides like this closer to me!
As of today there has been another event posted on the same date just a few hours for me in Ankeny Iowa. It's frustrating because it sounds like this is an established event that has been around for awhile but it is what it is. And then there's the so-called Facebook friends who talk a big game but yet I have never had a chance to ride with them. I invited a bunch of them to the event and they have never replied with any interest yet. It would be nice if I could get more than 8 or 9 people to show up for this event. We will have to see. It is still several months away. This would be the second event I have planned although the first one was just a one time thing and I never planned on making it an annual event. The first one I had planned, this last October, had a lot of people interested but only a fraction showed up.

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Originally Posted by wheelsmcgee
Good luck trailmonkey, hope it works out!...kind of far away for me, but you never know.

One suggestion: Have you posted anything on your Facebook page yet? I don't see anything other than the banner/title. However, that might be because I'm not a member of FB so I'm not signed in. Anyway, I know FB pages can be set to be publicly viewable, so if not already done so, consider doing that in the interest of reaching the widest audience.
Yes I have a page created on Facebook and per the ideas given by some of the fellow members here I expanded on it today and increased the description quite a bit.
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