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Nashbar Steel CX Sizing? ---Other Suggestions

Old 01-22-17, 08:05 PM
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Nashbar Steel CX Sizing? ---Other Suggestions

I'm looking at the Nashbar Steel CX bike for a new gravel/road/commuter/tour bike. Nashbar Steel Cyclocross Bike

I'm 5'9" with a 32" inseam. My shirt sleeves are usually 33/34 length.

I usually ride a 54cm bike but the Nashbar just comes in 53cm and 56cm. Can y'all help me figure out which size I should get? Here is a link to their sizing chart for that bike. Sizing Chart: Nashbar Steel Cyclocross Bike

On the one hand with the 53 I worry about the cockpit being cramped and having toe overlap. The 56 should help with toe overlap, but I don't want to get too stretched out and I don't want to be uncomfortable standing over my bike. Your insights are welcome.

Another bike I'm looking at is the 2017 Fuji Touring in 54 cm, but it comes with bar-end shifters and non-canti brakes. But it is also considerably less expensive https://www.performancebike.com/weba...=http%3ALogoff

Does anyone have any reason I should get the Fuji over the Nashbar or know of any other comparably priced and spec'd bikes I should look at instead?
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Another option is the Access Old Turnpike in 54cm but another thread here mentions some wonky geometry in this model. Whatcha think?
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Punch your measurements into the competitive cyclist bike fit calculator and compare the results to the sizing chart. My guess is that you could make either the 53 or the 56 work on the CX. The gearing on those two bikes is quite different, so you would want to go with the one that was more appropriate for the type of riding you are planning to do.
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Originally Posted by kingston
Punch your measurements into the competitive cyclist bike fit calculator and compare the results to the sizing chart. My guess is that you could make either the 53 or the 56 work on the CX. The gearing on those two bikes is quite different, so you would want to go with the one that was more appropriate for the type of riding you are planning to do.
I have a circuit I ride several times a week in the Spring. It consists of 20mi of road and chip-seal 3 days a week, with the option to extend to 25 and 30 if I want to ride some paved back-roads or gravel, and up to 50 miles on weekends if I'm feeling good. I had a had a road bike that was to tight to fit any tires over 23mm that I let go because I kept getting flats (I only took it on gravel once) no matter what I did. When I was out of replacement tubes I'd just grab my MTB 29er and go ride the 20 or 25 mile route.

What I'm looking for is something more comfortable and efficient than my 29er and less apt to pop tires than my old road bike. I feel like I can work with either kind of gearing but I do like to press for speed when I can. My ride is relatively flat, interrupted by some pretty decent climbs coming and going with usually a pretty strong headwind one way or the other.

I'm honestly leaning toward the Nashbar CX or the Access Old Turnpike bike just because I think I'll be able to shift better and get better speed out of them, I think they will be more nimble, and I think they're a better value overall. But the Fuji would be easier for me to maintain, and I really just mentioned it in case someone had a strong opinion on it or thought that bar end shifters weren't that big of a hinderance. Im not likely to do much long haul touring. Maybe a 1-2 day ride at most. I'm more likely to do some benefit races here and there for the fun but I'm not hoping to finish in the front.

I appreciate your input.
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My friend has the nashbar bike and really likes it. Wait till nashbar does another one of their 20-25% off deals to buy it, they do one every other week or so. It isn't light at around 25lbs and the stock brake pads are junk but it rides well. And if you order brake pads and I suggest you do it uses standard v-brake pads not cantis.

He also swapped out the 36 tooth inner chainring for a 34 he had laying around and added a 11-40 cassette using a roadlink. I'm planning to do the 11-40 for my gravel setup too, the gravel climbs here are stupid steep.

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Originally Posted by Kenbi
Another option is the Access Old Turnpike in 54cm but another thread here mentions some wonky geometry in this model. Whatcha think?
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I just got it the Access Old Turnpike Gravel Bike. I was using a 56 cm frame but got the 54 cm frame and I am very pleased.
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I have the Nashbar steel CX. Great bike at a great price. My primary reservation is the rear tire clearance...id say 35mm in the back is about the max. That is probably fine for many riders, but if you have thoughts of going wider, look elsewhere.
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I vote for the old turnpike, especially if you have a local Performance shop and can get them to help you with the fit.
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I really liked the Access Turnpike in concept, but I went to the sizing calculator, as suggested by an earlier poster, and input all my measurements, I came away with the impression that the 53cm Nashbar Steel CX will probably fit me best.

The sizing calculator confirmed something I'd suspected from my previous bike about my effective top tube length and stem length requirements. I had an 54cm Scattante R570 that I rode for a while but would get numb hands and sore lower back unless I rode with my hands on the bars a few inches back from th hoods. The TT+Stem was 673mm, but the fit was perfect as far as my reach to the pedals, so I was apparently way too stretched out.

The calculator indicated I needed to be riding a 54cm seat tube but that my reach needed to be much more compact, 631-641mm (I apparently have short arms).

Some 54cm CX bikes I looked at last night seemed to be much shorter than that size range. I presume it's to place the rider more upright for control in technical terrain. I'm mostly chip-seal and gravel so being super upright would be just as punishing on my lower back on longer rides as my 29er. I felt like I needed something in between.

The Access Turnpike, assuming a 100-110mm stem, in the 52cm size looks like about right for my reach, though maybe a little on the long side, but it's 2cm too short, while the 54cm, though about the right height, would be way more stretched out than my old R570.

Looking at the Nashbar Steel CX, it's only 1cm short but the reach seems about right for me, with an effective top tube of 530mm and a 110mm stem. Then Nashbar started another one of their 23% off sales this morning which brought the price of the bike down to $725 shipped. That clenched it. I placed my order this morning. I hope I haven't terribly miscalculated my size needs but I'm optimistic it'll suit my needs and riding style.

ETA: Plus I really like red!

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Proof that anyone with ambition can use the resources of the internet to buy a bike that fits online. Congratulations on your purchase. I'm sure you will love it.
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I bought a Nashbar steel CX bike in 2014, I've run 700x38 Specialized Trigger pros, mounted on 23mm rims, with no clearance problems. Couldn't fit a 40mm on there though.

Edited to add: I normally ride a 56 and the 56 fits fine.

It's an OK bike but if you crash and bend the RD hanger it's a huge PITA to fix. In fact, I never did get it fixed. I have a specialized tricross now that is just as good.

Also I had nothing but trouble getting the rear shifting dialed in, but I think I my Shimano 105 10-speed shifter was (and still is) a slight lemon.

I ended up replacing the wheels, FD (swapped to a Shimano CX70), crankset (shimano 105 with 50/34), stem, seatpost, saddle, and brakes. And probably some other things. Honestly would've been better off buying a nicer bike that cost more to begin with. Think I paid $650 for it on sale.
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Originally Posted by ksryder
It's an OK bike but if you crash and bend the RD hanger it's a huge PITA to fix. In fact, I never did get it fixed.
I assume it isnt a replacable hanger. My new steel gravel bike also has a dedicated hanger that cant be replaced. Sure, if it bends, ill have to take it to a shop to be realigned. Thats a pain, I guess.

At the same time, all my other bikes which are all 20-35 years old, have dedicated hangers. The odds of a bent hanger on a bike that isnt used in the woods/rocks/singletrack MTB riding is, in my experience, low.
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Suggestions like measuring the bike you have, and using those numbers?
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
I assume it isnt a replacable hanger. My new steel gravel bike also has a dedicated hanger that cant be replaced. Sure, if it bends, ill have to take it to a shop to be realigned. Thats a pain, I guess.

At the same time, all my other bikes which are all 20-35 years old, have dedicated hangers. The odds of a bent hanger on a bike that isnt used in the woods/rocks/singletrack MTB riding is, in my experience, low.
Correct, non-replaceable. Specifically what happened was that I wiped out on some loose gravel on a corner during a gravel race, got it straightened out, and re-bent it a couple times during some CX races. Eventually it got too weak and sheared off in the mud at the Land Run 100 last year. Finding a local framebuilder was difficult, and the estimated cost for replacing the dropout was roughly equal to replacing the frame, especially since I had a friend who was willing to part with his Tricross frame for a reasonable price.

I agree with you, my C&V road bike has zero issues with the RD hanger; and my circumstances with the multiple crashes are not going to be typical. I tend to be hard on parts.

I wouldn't discourage anyone from getting this bike, but if non-replaceable RD hangers are an issue for you it's something to be aware of.

Edited to add: Looking at my Strava numbers, I put about 6700 miles on the bike before I retired it. Assuming my friend who has some framebuilding tools ever gets around to fixing it, I have plans to turn it into a bikepacking rig.

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Originally Posted by ksryder
Correct, non-replaceable. Specifically what happened was that I wiped out on some loose gravel on a corner during a gravel race, got it straightened out, and re-bent it a couple times during some CX races. Eventually it got too weak and sheared off in the mud at the Land Run 100 last year. Finding a local framebuilder was difficult, and the estimated cost for replacing the dropout was roughly equal to replacing the frame, especially since I had a friend who was willing to part with his Tricross frame for a reasonable price.

I agree with you, my C&V road bike has zero issues with the RD hanger; and my circumstances with the multiple crashes are not going to be typical. I tend to be hard on parts.

I wouldn't discourage anyone from getting this bike, but if non-replaceable RD hangers are an issue for you it's something to be aware of.

Edited to add: Looking at my Strava numbers, I put about 6700 miles on the bike before I retired it. Assuming my friend who has some framebuilding tools ever gets around to fixing it, I have plans to turn it into a bikepacking rig.

Thank you for your comment. I don't think the non-replaceable hanger is going to be a big deal in my use since I'm not going to be doing any intense racing. Most of my use will be just road riding on country roads and gravel for fun and exercise. The chances of a crash that will bend the hanger are low. I can't even remember the last time I bent a hanger on any of my singe track MTBs if ever, and I thrash those pretty hard. If something goes wrong I'm pretty handy with a welder. If that doesn't work, well, it's not an expensive frame ( I can scrap it to my blacksmithing hobby) and it'll give me an excuse to buy another one and tinker build on a new frame.

If I was a serious CX racer or it was something I was going to really need to depend on without being able to call a sag-wagon then it might be a bigger deal.

Anyway, I'm committed now. Ordered the Nashbar Steel CX Monday and it should arrive today.
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Originally Posted by Kenbi
I'm looking at the Nashbar Steel CX bike for a new gravel/road/commuter/tour bike. Nashbar Steel Cyclocross Bike

Does anyone have any reason I should get the Fuji over the Nashbar or know of any other comparably priced and spec'd bikes I should look at instead?
Read this first, then decide:
The 'Under $1000' Cyclocross Bike Showdown: 3 of the Best Options

Personally, I road a couple of gravel and cyclocross bikes, and liked the Fuji, although the components were not the best.

Then I found a Motobecane Phantom Pro (Al), which has Fuji geometry, but Ultegra components. The bike was on craigslist, so I gave it a try and bought the thing (at half price). Motobecane is a great bang for the buck. I do like my steel bikes, although they are slower and heavier. Aluminum tends to be much more snappy feeling, and with the larger tires, I can adjust the "comfort" with the tire pressure and a good saddle.
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Originally Posted by Kenbi
Thank you for your comment. I don't think the non-replaceable hanger is going to be a big deal in my use since I'm not going to be doing any intense racing. Most of my use will be just road riding on country roads and gravel for fun and exercise. The chances of a crash that will bend the hanger are low. I can't even remember the last time I bent a hanger on any of my singe track MTBs if ever, and I thrash those pretty hard. If something goes wrong I'm pretty handy with a welder. If that doesn't work, well, it's not an expensive frame ( I can scrap it to my blacksmithing hobby) and it'll give me an excuse to buy another one and tinker build on a new frame.

If I was a serious CX racer or it was something I was going to really need to depend on without being able to call a sag-wagon then it might be a bigger deal.

Anyway, I'm committed now. Ordered the Nashbar Steel CX Monday and it should arrive today.
OP, how did the 53 fit? I'm your same height (5'9") and was looking at this same bike. 54 typically fits me perfectly, so I was sad to see that this is only offered in 53 and 56. Thanks!!
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OP, how did the 53 fit? I'm your same height (5'9") and was looking at this same bike. 54 typically fits me perfectly, so I was sad to see that this is only offered in 53 and 56. Thanks!!
It turned out just about perfect. I ended up shortening my overall reach by installing a 90mm stem. I'm still a little too stretched out because of my short arms. I'm going to replace the rearward offset seatpost with a straight one to move me forward 10mm or so. Then I'll be dialed in perfectly. Otherwise everything has been wonderful. The standover and leg reach are perfect and I'm glad I went with the size I did. The stock brake pads are almost completely useless so I switched those out post haste.

I haven't posted much here about it just because I've been so satisfied with it. Put some miles on it this summer and everything is humming along nicely. Speaking of humming, the stock knobby tires are SLOW so I'm looking to replace them with some slicker 700x30s. After that I may put a CF fork on it, but not because I need one, but just because I think it would look cool.

My wife and I rode the Beauty and The Beast in Tyler with some friends this year. I was just there to enjoy the ride, not set any records, and I felt like I had a perfectly matched bike for my style of riding.
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