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Old 10-14-17, 03:44 PM
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Apple Watch anyone?

Anyone using an Apple Watch to record their rides? Real life experience much appreciated! I'm interested in the GPS enabled v2 or v3 because I'd like to use the watch without taking along my phone.

It looks like you can use the watch and Strava or RWG to display a bunch of different metrics like distance, speed, elevation gain, elapsed time, heart rate, etc. (I think RWG updates the watch display every 2 seconds, so not quite real time but close; not sure about Strava.) Pretty cool that this can be done without bringing a phone.

I'm curious whether these apps will also download your actual route post-ride, or only the basic workout data. Neither company makes it clear on their website. I also can't tell if you can download a route to the watch before heading out and get cues.

If I could get this functionality on the watch I could ride with nothing on my handlebars and nothing in my pockets, just a really small under-saddle bag for a tube and a few tools. Looking forward to the comments!

Here are a couple of links:
https://ridewithgps.com/help/apple-watch
https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000161184-Strava-Apple-Watch-App-iOS
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You're sure asking a lot out of a watch. My riding buddy uses his apple watch but it's paired to his phone. I don't think I've ever seen anyone *not* wanting to take their phone with them.
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I'll bet all of that functionality will be done with the latest apple watch at some point.
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Whenever I see an Apple Watch, I can't help but think of Dick Tracy talking into his walkie talkie watch.
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From Ride With GPS:

Apple Watch 2 added a GPS receiver, so you can record rides using only the watch while leaving your phone at home.
There is also a FAQ link that might be of some help.

I too would like to hear about people's experiences.
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I use a Garmin watch as a data recorder, and a display for my speed and power output and whatnot. Received wisdom is that it's better to have a bike computer because the screen is bigger. My experience is that's the only thing you give up using a wrist watch. I can't say anything about the AW specifically, but I enjoy having all this on my wrist.

If you also hike or ski or swim or anything else, it's a no brainer.

With all that said, you should bring your phone when you ride. You can get a lot further from home on a bike than on foot, and might need to call somebody in the event of a mechanical.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
With all that said, you should bring your phone when you ride. You can get a lot further from home on a bike than on foot, and might need to call somebody in the event of a mechanical.
Yup.

Its a phone...there is just no downside to having it with you out on rural roads.

- hurt? call someone.
- breakdown? call someone.
- see someone else get hurt? call someone.

I use google maps every once in awhile on rides to then see how far i am from a specific gas station or town too.


To each their own and all, but if you bring an extra tube, usually the phone is just as wide as a tube for storage...doesnt really take up much room.
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I monitor all that stuff on an old phone - with no SIM card (basically a small tablet).

The only thing you need a phone for is live updates - such as downloading new map segments, or calling for help. I have a very old garmin that does all of your tracking too.

Strava on the phoneless phone does everything old cycling computers did, plus I down load maps before the ride and I can pair various sensors (bluetooth and ANT+) with it to monitor metrics live.
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my understanding is only the v3 apple watch doesn't need the phone with you. the v2 doesn't have internet without the phone or wifi near buy. i would double check the v2 before buying.
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If the new cellular-capable Apple Watch can function completely without a phone (meaning I still donít need a phone for setting up the watch) Iíll consider getting it as a phone replacement when my (still fairly new) iPhone bites the dust one day. Basically, the watch does everything I need:
  • basic maps and navigation (through various apps and siri)
  • send/recieve texts, emails, etc
  • voice based calling
  • heart rate/fitness monitoring
  • convenient wrist mount for cycling (bike mounts for phones are lousy)

Listening to music and private phone calls are tricky, but Iím sure a Bluetooth earpiece can be used. The only real downside compared to a phone for me would be dealing with low battery on long endurance rides (easier to dongle a phone to a usb battery pack). For websurfing and games, I have a tablet.
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I bring my phone, AW2, and a bike computer on my rides.

I never dispense with the phone in case of emergency.

I think AW2 runs Strava without the phone, but since I always have the phone, I don't care.

Dedicated computer because eye-to-wrist doesn't feel safe to me--YMMV, but I haven't got the skill--nevermind taking the other hand off the handlebar to fuss with the watch screen/button/dial. So, don't look at it, you might say--but if you don't ever look at it, you can pretty much run all of the apps (except HR) on your phone even if it's tucked in your pocket/bag.
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Originally Posted by wheelsmcgee
Basically, the watch does everything I need:[LIST][*]basic maps and navigation (through various apps and siri)
Ok, i could see siri since itll speak to you, but can a map be legitimately useful on a screen that size? The screen is something like a 1.5" square at largest, right?
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Ok, i could see siri since itll speak to you, but can a map be legitimately useful on a screen that size? The screen is something like a 1.5" square at largest, right?
Everybodyís needs are different of course, but when I use navigation Iím mostly relying on voice cues. Ridewithgps does this, and its worked well for me on the dk100 and a few other longish rides. I do look at the map occasionally, but mostly just to see what the upcoming route looks like.
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you don't need a phone, you just need GPS. Unless of course you need live updates of your map.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Ok, i could see siri since itll speak to you, but can a map be legitimately useful on a screen that size? The screen is something like a 1.5" square at largest, right?
Absolutely. Less so for cycling because of the speed involved, but, still, yes. Can show you your surroundings, give you context for how far you are from whatever you're interested in, where to find things that matter to you, etc. And for navigation, if the maps are legitimately in the watch.

Again mine is a Garmin not an Apple, but I'm assuming most of the concepts apply to both. Sometimes I drive my bike somewhere, park the car, and ask the watch to give me a loop of however many miles I want to ride. It has routable maps, so it'll give me three options (flat as it can find, moderate, very hilly) and then give me turn-by-turn guidance through the loop I choose. Don't even have to look at the map to use this feature, just need the data.

Same kind of thing for "route me to the nearest water supply."
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Would be cool to see some type of mount for apple watch on the handlebars if more bike information could be displayed on the watch.
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