Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Cyclocross and Gravelbiking (Recreational)
Reload this Page >

Specialized Crux Elite X1 2018 owners

Notices
Cyclocross and Gravelbiking (Recreational) This has to be the most physically intense sport ever invented. It's high speed bicycle racing on a short off road course or riding the off pavement rides on gravel like : "Unbound Gravel". We also have a dedicated Racing forum for the Cyclocross Hard Core Racers.

Specialized Crux Elite X1 2018 owners

Old 12-14-17, 09:28 AM
  #1  
Bolda
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 12
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Specialized Crux Elite X1 2018 owners

Hello, what type of carbon (10or11r) is Frame on Crux Elite X1 2018? Website say 11r, but on the frame is 10r. Thanks.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
Fact carbon 10r.jpg (50.4 KB, 193 views)
Bolda is offline  
Old 12-14-17, 02:54 PM
  #2  
shelbyfv 
Senior Member
 
shelbyfv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: TN
Posts: 9,357
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2663 Post(s)
Liked 3,053 Times in 1,603 Posts
Your memory seems to be as bad as mine! Here's your other post, still on the first page. Specialized Crux EliteX1 2018 carbon 10r or 11r Think you had some others as well.
shelbyfv is offline  
Old 12-16-17, 09:32 PM
  #3  
shelbyfv 
Senior Member
 
shelbyfv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: TN
Posts: 9,357
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2663 Post(s)
Liked 3,053 Times in 1,603 Posts
Your frame is 10R
shelbyfv is offline  
Old 12-18-17, 04:48 PM
  #4  
shelbyfv 
Senior Member
 
shelbyfv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: TN
Posts: 9,357
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2663 Post(s)
Liked 3,053 Times in 1,603 Posts
Housekeeping
shelbyfv is offline  
Old 12-19-17, 06:05 PM
  #5  
shelbyfv 
Senior Member
 
shelbyfv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: TN
Posts: 9,357
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2663 Post(s)
Liked 3,053 Times in 1,603 Posts
Does anyone know what you get with one "r" additional?
shelbyfv is offline  
Old 12-20-17, 06:54 PM
  #6  
pesty
Master Sarcaster
 
pesty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: DFW, Texas
Posts: 527

Bikes: 2018 Allez Sprint, 2016 Trek Crockett Canti

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 190 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Maybe when they made it they didn't have the new 11r stickers printed yet, so they used 10r ones. I mean, it isn't 2018 yet, so....

Talk to the shop that you bought it at...
Call, email, tweet, facebook message Specialized...
if all else fails, get Lennard Zinn involved.
pesty is offline  
Old 12-20-17, 07:42 PM
  #7  
shelbyfv 
Senior Member
 
shelbyfv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: TN
Posts: 9,357
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2663 Post(s)
Liked 3,053 Times in 1,603 Posts
Originally Posted by pesty View Post
Talk to the shop that you bought it at....
Would make sense, wouldn't it? Apparently not something OP is interested in.
shelbyfv is offline  
Old 12-24-17, 03:53 PM
  #8  
Bolda
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 12
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by pesty View Post
Maybe when they made it they didn't have the new 11r stickers printed yet, so they used 10r ones. I mean, it isn't 2018 yet, so....

Talk to the shop that you bought it at...
Call, email, tweet, facebook message Specialized...
if all else fails, get Lennard Zinn involved.
Thank you for you advice, I will contact Specialized. But I need to know, if somebody has the same finding.
Bolda is offline  
Old 12-24-17, 05:30 PM
  #9  
pesty
Master Sarcaster
 
pesty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: DFW, Texas
Posts: 527

Bikes: 2018 Allez Sprint, 2016 Trek Crockett Canti

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 190 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Bolda View Post
Thank you for you advice, I will contact Specialized. But I need to know, if somebody has the same finding.
I googled some photos, they all appear to show 10r. 2017 was labeled on the outside of the chain stay, not the inside of the seat stay, so they were definitely 2018 that I saw pictures of.
pesty is offline  
Old 01-29-18, 04:57 PM
  #10  
Bolda
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 12
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
so frame is 11r, the same as S-Works frame. Specialized confirmed, there is mistake on the frame in sticker
Bolda is offline  
Old 01-30-18, 08:05 AM
  #11  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 4,032
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4105 Post(s)
Liked 5,401 Times in 2,412 Posts
So your frame goes to eleven.

Nigel Tufnel would approve.
Koyote is offline  
Old 01-30-18, 01:02 PM
  #12  
shelbyfv 
Senior Member
 
shelbyfv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: TN
Posts: 9,357
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2663 Post(s)
Liked 3,053 Times in 1,603 Posts
What a relief
shelbyfv is offline  
Old 01-30-18, 03:29 PM
  #13  
vinuneuro
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NW Chicagoland
Posts: 783

Bikes: 2016 Diverge Expert

Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 389 Post(s)
Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts
'S-Works' frameset = $2800

Crux Sport w/ the same 11r frame and 105 hydraulic groupset = $2800

vinuneuro is offline  
Old 01-30-18, 04:38 PM
  #14  
motrheadsroadie
Senior Member
 
motrheadsroadie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
Posts: 863

Bikes: stinner cx, paramount track

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 262 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times in 6 Posts
just because its the same 11r carbon doesnt mean its layed up in the same places as an sworks frame.
motrheadsroadie is offline  
Old 01-30-18, 11:33 PM
  #15  
vinuneuro
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NW Chicagoland
Posts: 783

Bikes: 2016 Diverge Expert

Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 389 Post(s)
Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts
It's the same frame according to Specialized.
vinuneuro is offline  
Old 01-31-18, 02:25 PM
  #16  
pesty
Master Sarcaster
 
pesty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: DFW, Texas
Posts: 527

Bikes: 2018 Allez Sprint, 2016 Trek Crockett Canti

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 190 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by vinuneuro View Post
It's the same frame according to Specialized.
I'd be surprised if it was. As stated above, it very well could be the same carbon fabric, but the layup, where the fabric was placed, other fabrics used, etc. could be different between the two. It would not surprise me at all to find out that the S-Works is a hundred to couple hundred grams lighter, maybe imperceptibly stiffer BB, etc.

The 10r, 11r is just marketing crap anyway. In reality they are using the same carbon fiber that Hongfu is using in their cheap frames from China. The difference is the engineering in the design and layup of the bike, and similar to open mold frames, while the two Crux's may share the same mold and carbon, how they're built may be wildly different.
pesty is offline  
Old 01-31-18, 03:02 PM
  #17  
vinuneuro
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NW Chicagoland
Posts: 783

Bikes: 2016 Diverge Expert

Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 389 Post(s)
Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts
If the frames were different, they'd be marketing the advantage of the more expensive one, eg. Tarmac SL6 UL. I'd be more inclined to believe that the website is wrong. Them producing a 2018 Crux 10r sticker and using it in production (or them using 11r material in a $2800 bike), all being a mistake, is likely than someone putting the wrong info on the website. 10r, 11r is probably the same material as Trek uses for OCLV 600, 700 or what's used in Chinese frames, but the grades do differ from from each other. Agreed that same materials will produce very different results based on the engineering. It's a main reason that I prefer to buy carbon bikes from the larger manufacturers (eg. ones that race their bikes in the world tour). They have the resources and expertise to develop the best products.

Last edited by vinuneuro; 01-31-18 at 03:07 PM.
vinuneuro is offline  
Old 01-31-18, 05:48 PM
  #18  
motrheadsroadie
Senior Member
 
motrheadsroadie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
Posts: 863

Bikes: stinner cx, paramount track

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 262 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times in 6 Posts
a long time ago a friend bought a brand new caad 9 with a threaded bb that had a huge BB30 logo on the bottom of the shell. i dont think that bike was ever sold with a bb30 crank but factory mistakes happen.
motrheadsroadie is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Bolda
Cyclocross and Gravelbiking (Recreational)
23
09-09-19 03:56 PM
Caretaker
Professional Cycling For the Fans
36
04-16-18 11:27 AM
Darth Lefty
Northern California
0
04-01-18 12:15 PM
Bilakor
Fixed Gear Freestyle
2
01-29-18 04:13 AM
Bolda
General Cycling Discussion
2
12-03-17 05:23 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.