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Old 05-16-18, 09:35 AM
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Giant Toughroad SLR GX Adventure Bike

I saw this bike at my LBS after looking at it online for a few months now and wanted to inquire if anyone has this bike or had experience with it? I test road the GX 1 model in a size Large and it was definitely enjoyable. So much so that I canceled my pre-order on the Salsa Journeyman to put a down-payment on this bike. I was a little bit worried that the longer chainstays of 450mm would make the bike feel less responsive compared to my 425mm Cyclocross bike, however for the extra stability that I felt with the bike I think I was definitely making a big deal out of a not so big deal.

Won't have the bike till later this Summer, or sooner if I get lucky, so if any of you have the bike I'd love some pictures and thoughts of your riding experience with the bike. I'm also curious to see what the largest tire people have been able to run on this bike.
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Subscribing as I've been comparing pretty much the two same bikes .... the Journeyman with the Toughroad SLR GX1 ....

I didn't know the Journeyman was on pre-order either ... did you have any idea of expected delivery time?
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Through my LBS they said they wouldn't have it in till mid-July. The Journeyman Sora might still be on my radar however, as I found out the GX 1 model comes with a carbon D-Fuse seatpost and not the alloy one. Also Giant doesn't sell the alloy seat-post separately so there's that too. At my weigh of about 350lbs I'm a bit worried about having complications with that seat-post, but IDK yet. I contacted Giant also and am just waiting to hear back.
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Afternoon folks,

I picked up my SLR GX0 a couple of weeks ago and have 50k on it so far. Out of the gate impression is that I love this bike. For reference, my roadie is a 14.5lb Cannondale SuperSix Evo HM Sram Red. I wanted a do it all road inspired bike for bad weather days, early/late season and for fun. Since getting the toughroad, I haven't touched the SuperSix. It will go anywhere and is a comfortable ride with the larger tires. Will try to get some pics later for review.

The only thing I will change out of the box is a new saddle. I prefer another style. Other than that, stock is great. FOr reference, I am 6'3" 220lbs and a large is perfect for me. The bike is in the 23lb range with pedals but is built like a tank. Rolls really well when up and going. Is it a high speed roadie... nope. But it will hold its own. If you are in an area with not too many hills, put a 42 or 44 up front and away you go. On the weight scale, if you really wanted to pair weight down you could get it below 20lbs but it would run you $1.5k or thereabouts for tires, rims, cassette, crankset and rear derailleur. If it was to be a one bike do it all, I might consider it. But its not so I will ride as is and when things break and fail, then I will replace with upgraded parts (Force vs Apex etc.). The shifting is as precise (if not more so ) than my 2013 Red group. The 1x is a dream and does it all. Yes, you notice the gaps at first between the gears but you quickly get over that. You can tweak cassettes and chain rings to mix it up and tailor to your needs is needed. For me, its more than fine.

All in all, a great, fun bike that will go anywhere comfortably and allow you to load it up with racks and rigging. Oh, and put 48/50 tires on it!!
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t the GX 1 model comes with a carbon D-Fuse seatpost and not the alloy one. Also Giant doesn't sell the alloy seat-post separately so there's that too. At my weigh of about 350lbs I'm a bit worried about having complications with that seat-post, but IDK yet. I contacted Giant also and am just waiting to hear back.
Isn't alloy meant to be as strong as Carbon these days ???? If someone else knows better please do chime in and correct me but I wouldn't have thought that'd cause a problem.

martimer .. your comment was interesting about the gear spacing ... I was looking at the GX1 as opposed to the GX0 and that was one of the reasons as I thought think I'd prefer it as well as it offering more versatility?????

Just as a general if anyone has any comments in relation to the GX2 / 3 in comparison to the GX1 ... would you really notice a difference and is it worth spending the extra money .... or even the GX0 (although very hard to find in the UK) ... whilst I was happy to by a 2nd hand 29er and didn't know if I'd like it or not and thought if I don't I'd sell it and wouldn't lose much .... I'm hoping my gravel bike will become my main keep for ever bike and will have it for years in which case I don't mind spending the extra but the flip side there's no point if I'm really not going to notice the difference and it could be spent on mudguards / frame / saddle bag and all the other bits needed to go with it??
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Afternoon folks,

I picked up my SLR GX0 a couple of weeks ago and have 50k on it so far. Out of the gate impression is that I love this bike. For reference, my roadie is a 14.5lb Cannondale SuperSix Evo HM Sram Red. I wanted a do it all road inspired bike for bad weather days, early/late season and for fun. Since getting the toughroad, I haven't touched the SuperSix. It will go anywhere and is a comfortable ride with the larger tires. Will try to get some pics later for review.

The only thing I will change out of the box is a new saddle. I prefer another style. Other than that, stock is great. FOr reference, I am 6'3" 220lbs and a large is perfect for me. The bike is in the 23lb range with pedals but is built like a tank. Rolls really well when up and going. Is it a high speed roadie... nope. But it will hold its own. If you are in an area with not too many hills, put a 42 or 44 up front and away you go. On the weight scale, if you really wanted to pair weight down you could get it below 20lbs but it would run you $1.5k or thereabouts for tires, rims, cassette, crankset and rear derailleur. If it was to be a one bike do it all, I might consider it. But its not so I will ride as is and when things break and fail, then I will replace with upgraded parts (Force vs Apex etc.). The shifting is as precise (if not more so ) than my 2013 Red group. The 1x is a dream and does it all. Yes, you notice the gaps at first between the gears but you quickly get over that. You can tweak cassettes and chain rings to mix it up and tailor to your needs is needed. For me, its more than fine.

All in all, a great, fun bike that will go anywhere comfortably and allow you to load it up with racks and rigging. Oh, and put 48/50 tires on it!!
If you have pictures I'd love to see. Interested in the tire clearance with 2" 29er tires.

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Isn't alloy meant to be as strong as Carbon these days ???? If someone else knows better please do chime in and correct me but I wouldn't have thought that'd cause a problem.

martimer .. your comment was interesting about the gear spacing ... I was looking at the GX1 as opposed to the GX0 and that was one of the reasons as I thought think I'd prefer it as well as it offering more versatility?????

Just as a general if anyone has any comments in relation to the GX2 / 3 in comparison to the GX1 ... would you really notice a difference and is it worth spending the extra money .... or even the GX0 (although very hard to find in the UK) ... whilst I was happy to by a 2nd hand 29er and didn't know if I'd like it or not and thought if I don't I'd sell it and wouldn't lose much .... I'm hoping my gravel bike will become my main keep for ever bike and will have it for years in which case I don't mind spending the extra but the flip side there's no point if I'm really not going to notice the difference and it could be spent on mudguards / frame / saddle bag and all the other bits needed to go with it??
In theory yes Carbon has a higher strength to weight ratio meaning you can have lighter carbon parts that are just as strong as alloy parts. My main issue comes with clamping the seatpost on a workstand (which is OK for aluminum) and seat-clamp tightening. Clamping or over tightening bolts relating to carbon tubes is the quickest way to cause them to fail, and since I only worked with aluminum I don't have a torque wrench to make sure everything isn't too tight. I also tend to adjust my seat on the fly which is much trickier as a result unless I also invest in a portable torque wrench.

As far as components: if I had access to the GX2 I would probably get that just because my cyclocross bike has the same 9 speed 11-34 cassette. I like the color of both, moreso than the GX 3, and they both have two-piece cranks as opposed to square taper which I prefer.
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I didn't realise which part pf it was carbon .... but it's the seat post???? If you really like the rest of the spec why not just bey a different one, wouldn't it be cheaper than upgrading other bits at a later stage??
That said I don't have a bike stand at the moment although intend to get one in the future and agree would find it really annoying if you couldn't clamp it by the seat post as most of the time I use a frame bag which is a faff to keep taking off and on to put it in a stand.

I'd looked at the GX2 as well, as you say nice colour, just thought I'd buy something slightly better for once .... especially as I'm hoping it becomes my main bike and I also wondered why they put narrower tyres on it ... is it because it can't take the wider ones which may be a limiting factor for the future and is also potentially £100 spent if you want wider ones which narrows the difference in cost quite a bit?

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Through my LBS they said they wouldn't have it in till mid-July. The Journeyman Sora might still be on my radar however, as I found out the GX 1 model comes with a carbon D-Fuse seatpost and not the alloy one. Also Giant doesn't sell the alloy seat-post separately so there's that too. At my weigh of about 350lbs I'm a bit worried about having complications with that seat-post, but IDK yet. I contacted Giant also and am just waiting to hear back.
A BF member from the hybrid subforum found that his toughroad slr 1 dfuse seatpost had too much flex (I believe he was a Clyde) and managed to source an alloy one through his Giant lbs. So you too should be able to get one.
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I didn't realise which part pf it was carbon .... but it's the seat post???? If you really like the rest of the spec why not just bey a different one, wouldn't it be cheaper than upgrading other bits at a later stage??
That said I don't have a bike stand at the moment although intend to get one in the future and agree would find it really annoying if you couldn't clamp it by the seat post as most of the time I use a frame bag which is a faff to keep taking off and on to put it in a stand.

I'd looked at the GX2 as well, as you say nice colour, just thought I'd buy something slightly better for once .... especially as I'm hoping it becomes my main bike and I also wondered why they put narrower tyres on it ... is it because it can't take the wider ones which may be a limiting factor for the future and is also potentially £100 spent if you want wider ones which narrows the difference in cost quite a bit?
Kinda confused as to what you mean. I already put the bike down on layaway with my LBS so if I were to change it now Iíd be losing the initial 20%. That said Iím perfectly happy with the bike as is, and if I really need it sure Iíll get the alloy post.

As for the tires, I have two different sets of tires that I intend on using with this bike as soon as I get it. The bike has LOADS of clearance anyway - you could run a 50mm tire and still have room for rocks and a bit of mud. I always wanted a drop bar bike like that that I also like the looks of in addition, so yeah.
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So everyone, as luck would have it I was able to sell my old bike and use the money to pay off the rest of my down payment sooooooo......

Ta-da!



Picked this up today and I gotta say I'm super pumped to be able to ride this bike after months of oogling it in the shop and in pics. The first thing I decided to do was check the rear tire clearance. It's advertised as being able to fit 700c x 50mm tires with fenders, but I only really care about 27.5 wheels, so I tried out my wheelset and here's the result:



A LOT of room around a 27.5 x 2.0 in tire. These tires are 50 mm so I could run a 2.1 and still have pretty good mud clearance. 29 x 2.1s should work fine as well but with slightly less clearance. However I personally prefer 27.5 for the quicker handling and closer geometry to a CX bike, though I am tempted to buy some fast rolling 29er tires just for the experience. I was a little worried that there might not have been as much rear tire clearance as I wanted, but this is way more than I could have asked for.

There were a few things I was worried about with this bike. The long chainstays made me think that this was going to ride like a sluggish touring bike. Honestly however I don't think the acceleration is as bad as I thought it'd be. Obviously it's not on the level of a snappy road bike, but that's not why I bought it. The only thing I will need to learn to do is adjust the Conduct brake system Front brake is fine but the rear does require more lever pull which I'd like to tighten up.

Otherwise I feel like a child on Christmas day with this bike. Can't wait to put some miles on this one

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So everyone, as luck would have it I was able to sell my old bike and use the money to pay off the rest of my down payment sooooooo......

Ta-da!
Looks absolutely stunning .... I hope to be posting the same one day when funds allow ... let us know how you're getting in with it when you've a few more miles under you belt and good on you!!
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So I did explore a few things with this bike that I thought I'd post for more visibility:

- Tire Clearance: I measured the distance between the fork blades and the chainstays as close to where the tires will end up to see what it'll look like with 29er wheels. Here's what I got:





As I expected: the fork had much more clearance than the chainstays. The amount of clearance was pretty mind-blowing at the fork. I'd say a 2.1 rear and 2.3 front is the most you can push with this. Or if you run slicks or slightly undersized knobby tires (relative to their label) you might have many more options. I haven't given up on 27.5 wheels but I do want to test out the tire clearance for 29er tires, so I ordered a set of Clement MSO's in 700x50 mm and Schwalbe Thunder Burts in 27.5x2.1 in. Only reason I'm still sticking with 27.5 is that the wheelbase ant the bottom bracket drop are still in line with a few bikes that also can run similar wheel + tire setups, specifically the Salsa Journeyman which I declined getting for the Toughroad.

- Tires/Wheels: I checked the stock wheels/tires that came with the bike. From an interaction I had with someone at my LBS where I bought this bike, he mentioned that the tires were tubeless. Now I knew the wheels were at least tubeless-ready, but I decided to take the tire off the rim and see for myself:





They are in fact set up tubeless stock! Now I don't know if the GX 2/3 are also this way, however this was a pleasant surprise to me considering how I was considering going tubeless in the future. As you can see however, there is no sealant included, so that will be an extra thing to add on for maximum tubeless performance. I'll do that if/when I need to however..

The next thing I'll be doing with this bike once the parts come in is comparing the 29er wheel + tire combo with 27.5. I know it's not designed for that but it won't stop me from trying and feeling the differences in ride quality & handling. Till next time
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They are in fact set up tubeless stock! Now I don't know if the GX 2/3 are also this way, however this was a pleasant surprise to me considering how I was considering going tubeless in the future. As you can see however, there is no sealant included, so that will be an extra thing to add on for maximum tubeless performance. I'll do that if/when I need to however..

The next thing I'll be doing with this bike once the parts come in is comparing the 29er wheel + tire combo with 27.5. I know it's not designed for that but it won't stop me from trying and feeling the differences in ride quality & handling. Till next time
I work in a shop that carries Giant and the Toughroads are sweet bikes. Giant ships some models "factory tubeless," already taped and with tubeless valves. Those also ship with a couple of bottles of sealant, so check with your shop. They may have just overlooked adding the sealant to the tires when they sold you the bike.
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I work in a shop that carries Giant and the Toughroads are sweet bikes. Giant ships some models "factory tubeless," already taped and with tubeless valves. Those also ship with a couple of bottles of sealant, so check with your shop. They may have just overlooked adding the sealant to the tires when they sold you the bike.
Wow. I guess I can ask, however I did end up changing the tires to 50mm Clement MSOs, so I wonder if they would still do that...
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UPDATE: So I did stop by the LBS that I bought the Toughroad from. Got the 2 2oz containers of sealent which is a bit lacking for my needs as I'll get into in this post.

So I talked about setting up my Toughroad with 29er and 27.5 Tires, and I did just that. For 29er I'm running Clement X'Plor MSO 50s on the stock Giant 19mm internal width rims, and for 27.5 Schwalbe Thunder Burt Snakeskin 2.1 in on 21mm internal width Weinmann rims. The MSOs measured between 50-52mm and the Thunder Burt 51-52mm.

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So I had a chance to ride both tire + wheel combos, and I think I can give a good explanation to how I feel about them.

29er:
- These tires make the bike feel like a monster truck. They roll over obstacles well and hold momentum very well.
- I felt like I was able to hold a steady pace with these tires and less prone to hitting peaks of high and low cadences.
- The area where I felt least comfortable was accelerating from a stop. The weight + larger diameter made getting the tires spinning up a challenge.

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- Despite a slightly heavier rim and higher spoke count wheel, the tires were lighter than the 29er tires (470g * 2 + inner tubes vs 780g * 2).
- Weight + smaller diameter tires meant that the bike was much quicker to accelerate and overall more snappy.
- The wheels were much stiffer which is good and bad. Good meaning much less likely to fall out of true and/or break a spoke, bad as in along with less roll-over potential led to a harsher ride quality (this was slightly corrected with tire pressure).

My Thoughts: For the longest time I wanted a drop-bar bike that I can fit road cranks and MTB sized tires and this bike did not disappoint....... mostly. While the front fork has enormous amounts of clearance, I feel like despite fitting 50mm tires on a 700c rim as advertised being able to fit, the lack of room compared to the front leaves something to be desired. 27.5 Tires add a bit more room for things like rocks and mud and I think fitting a 55mm tire in 27.5 format would be possible and would also bring the BB height closer to when running 38-40mm 700c tires. That being said for day to day riding I think I'll be sticking with 29er tires for the improved comfort and compliance, unless I break a spoke or something.

Thoughts on this bike as a whole: Honestly, this bike may have been the closest thing to my dream bike, and I'm honestly surprised that this kind of flew under the radar for most people. If this came spec'd with thru axles and maybe a shorter 440mm chainstay like the Giant Revolt which this bike replaced, I think more people would have been interested in this bike. but for someone who still runs quick release wheels and wanted to run MTB sized tires, this bike does the job and does it well in my opinion.
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Nice bike. Hoping to find a 2018 model on sale as the 2019s have started rolling out according to their website.
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Let's see some post gravel ride/race pics now
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Nice bike. Hoping to find a 2018 model on sale as the 2019s have started rolling out according to their website.
Have you got a link to this info ... had a look on their website but couldn't see it??

There's very few of these in the UK at the moment, I believe a container full is due in 2 / 3 weeks.
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Have you got a link to this info ... had a look on their website but couldn't see it??

There's very few of these in the UK at the moment, I believe a container full is due in 2 / 3 weeks.
There's only 1 model for now, though.
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/bi...ad-slr-gx-2019
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Nice bike. Hoping to find a 2018 model on sale as the 2019s have started rolling out according to their website.
I hope so. The price hike I saw on the Claris model was quite a bit. Though to be fair if that paint finish was out when I put my Toughroad on layaway i would have gotten that one and saved myself a couple hundred

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I certainty have the motivation. Now to find places locally to ride...
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I hope so. The price hike I saw on the Claris model was quite a bit. Though to be fair if that paint finish was out when I put my Toughroad on layaway i would have gotten that one and saved myself a couple hundred



I certainty have the motivation. Now to find places locally to ride...
Yeah, I was excited when I saw the listing and figured it would of been a Sora setup given the price . Clicked on it and seen Claris and that excitement quickly vanished . No idea why they thought Claris was ok on a 1,000 dollar bike.
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In theory yes Carbon has a higher strength to weight ratio meaning you can have lighter carbon parts that are just as strong as alloy parts. My main issue comes with clamping the seatpost on a workstand (which is OK for aluminum) and seat-clamp tightening. Clamping or over tightening bolts relating to carbon tubes is the quickest way to cause them to fail, and since I only worked with aluminum I don't have a torque wrench to make sure everything isn't too tight. I also tend to adjust my seat on the fly which is much trickier as a result unless I also invest in a portable torque wrench.

Correct. carbon does not like point loads. A carbon fork may be "stronger" but use it as a sword against a steel fork and carbon will loose because that impact is a point load. Same thing with overtightening. That and putting a load on it that it wasn't really designed for.
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Correct. carbon does not like point loads. A carbon fork may be "stronger" but use it as a sword against a steel fork and carbon will loose because that impact is a point load. Same thing with overtightening. That and putting a load on it that it wasn't really designed for.

But is this really for real ... a bike like this weighs ... lets pump it up a load and pretend 25kg ... and I've gone so over the top it's not true ... the person that then sits on the seat post may weigh between 65 and say 110kg and they'll be able to sit on the seat and not break it / the bike ..... but you can't put a clamp around the seat post that will be able to hold what realistically with lights, frame / saddle bag etc probably won't weigh more than 15kg .... seriously??

The other big thing, get an egg, put it in your hand without any rings on, squeeze it and see if you can break it ..... circular is much stronger and a seat post will have the same values and easily be able to withstand a clamp to hold it's weight .... or am I wrong?
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The other big thing, get an egg, put it in your hand without any rings on, squeeze it and see if you can break it ..... circular is much stronger and a seat post will have the same values and easily be able to withstand a clamp to hold it's weight .... or am I wrong?
you are correct, it all depends on if there's a pinch point or any concentrated load point. I'm pretty relaxed when I'm torqing down metals, but with carbon I always use a torque wrench and follow the manufacturer's specifications

My egg made a mess by the way, I guess I wasn't loading it evenly.
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