65Marinoni

No major manufacturers offer a real 64cm cross , or gravel bike . There many interesting entry from Trek Cannondale Specialized but always with a compact géo with a ''false '' 61cm seat tube ( BB to top of ST ) at best ( always in reality a 58cm ) . Don't want a 400mm seat post showing 10 inch ... indesirable pogo effect ( ''save'' in cannondale words with btw their ridiculous 25.4 seat post ).
6-7 years ago only Kona offer one but everybody remenber the Jake as a boat anchor ( alu one ... ) . I know , I've got one for a month and resale it , never saw an alu bike with so much weight .
Somebody know if somewhere I could find this type of bike from a popular manufacturer for my 99cm inseam ? . Don't want a KHS xxxxxl 747 or an expensive Zinn .

DrIsotope

Soma Double Cross comes in a 66cm
Canyon Inflite 2XL will do 920mm from saddle to BB, which should be well more than enough
The Pelago Stavanger from Finland makes up to a 65cm, listed for riders 195-205cm tall.

tyrion

And Soma Wolverine comes in 66cm.

Wolverine (v.3.0) (Adventure / Monstercross) | SOMA Fabrications

mstateglfr 

while i dont have sloping top tube bikes due to aesthetic preference, its a bit odd to dismiss them based on seat tube length. Stack and reach measurements are whats important.

not sure why you want a popular manufacturer. I would rather have a frame and bike that is quality and fits me. What's it matter if it's Jamis or Kona or Giant?

I ride a 65cm black mountain cycles frame. The current geometry is identical in a 64cm frame. It isnt a popular manufacturer...the brand isnt a manufacturer at all. But it's quality tubing, consistent quality, and geometry that fits me.
good luck

McBTC

A large part of the 'exposed' seat post on a Trek Domane is actually a fixed part (IsoSpeed) of the frame... seems like a good design and the largest available frame, a 62, is pretty big.

tangerineowl

Alu, carbon, ti or steel?
What's the largest tyre size you'd like to be able to run?

shoota 

I'm really curious what this means??

Squeeze

I've seen that Black Mountain Cycles offers a 64 cm Monstercross frame (or complete build, if you prefer).

Monster Cross Frames - Black Mountain Cycles

I've been considering buying a smaller version for a few years now but can't bring myself to spend that kind of dough just yet.

65Marinoni

Mr Shoota : Simply , that mean a lot of flex of the seat post . Cannondale call this ''Save'' for saving your back for more '' compliance'' I've allready get enough of that with my current 27.2 dia seat post and Cannon. are tinier with a 25.4 dia. Don't want to spend lot of $ for Thompson seat post .

65Marinoni

Squeeze : Just like you : can't bring myself to spend that kind of dough just yet . I've allready got a Custom built 65 cm Marinoni , it's fine but it's a boat anchor . Steel is really real and black Mtn bike are made with that . I've allready found their website in the past : it's an interesting builder , very attractive bikes .

65Marinoni

McBTC , Their inverted seat post are not long enough for me

65Marinoni

Dr Isotope : My Marinoni = steel : very heavy and all your listing are made with steel or expensive Ti . What do you think about a Jake the Snake Cr 2017 : avalaible that years in 63cm ( last years of tall 63 ) , Full Carbon with a maybe problematic PF30 BB , heard lot of creaking stories about this BB standard . Kona since my last alu Jake '08 , 64cm , make a lot of progress for leaning theirs alu frames and a full carbon cross should be light .

65Marinoni

I know that a lot of expert said exactly the same about seat tube not determinant for bike sizing choice , but they certainly don't have an 99cm inseam with only 6'5'' like myself . I could tolerate a 64cm produce in mass production since they allways be around 60cm for top tube , My torso is short .

65Marinoni

Something like 700 x 47 , frame material : would like to try carbon , what do you think about that in 63cm

Kona Jake the Snake CR Cyclocross Bike 2017 ???

DrIsotope

Just to consider, most actual CX frames won't clear anything bigger than about a 38mm tire in the back. Some barely clear 35. I have a 38 on the back of my Ritchey, and it has maybe 2mm clearance per side. When the tires get muddy, there is scraping.

mstateglfr 

Oh yeah, i totally get the difficulty in finding something that works..
You mention steel frames being boat anchors, but there are very few(none?) carbon frames that are level top tube like you want at the size you need. That traditional frame design has mostly gone the way of the dodo.

You have a 99cm cycling inseam which on a traditional diamond frame places you with an 88cm saddle height from the center of the bottom bracket. Is that accurate for your current bike(s)?
https://www.rivbike.com/pages/choosing-a-frame-size
I have an 86 or 87cm saddle height, depending on which road/gravel bike is measured. So pretty close to what you most likely have and need. My aesthetic preference is a level top tube, like you.


I built a steel frame this winter and am building it up right now. Its a road frame, but all the components would apply to gravel too- itll weigh 21# ready to ride. While that isnt anywhere close to the 16# carbon gravel bikes on the market, those quoted weights are also for a M size frame and without pedals or bottle cages. Those add 12-16oz depending on what you get. So its what- 4# or so different and you dont even have the same size frames to compare. its less than 4# once you compare similar frame sizes.


My gravel bike, fully ready to ride is 25#. 65cm steel frame, 40mm tubed tires, brooks c17 saddle- never gonna be a lightweight. But its comfortable and is more bike than I am capable of needing.
I dont know of any bikes that meet your criteria of frame size, level top tube, light frame, and stock by a 'big name'. Specialized Diverge has the potential to be light, fit you, and is a big name...but like everything else it isnt a level top tube.

Update us on what you get and especially if you find something that fits all your wants!

tangerineowl

If your Marinoni fits you well, then I'd compare the stack and reach of your frame against the 63cm Kona, for a start.
That frame is rather long and low in its proportions.

I had a bit of a look around for carbon frames with your specs but came up short.

65Marinoni

I found a Jake the snake '17 the carbon one at : Kona Jake the Snake CR Cyclocross Bike 2017
but their site is not secured in my browser and theirs prices are unreal , I wonder if I can trust this on-line store ????

DonBjr

Might want to look at the Trek Crossrip 3. I'm 6'4" (mostly legs) so a bit shorter than you, but I use a trek emonda 64cm and a crossrip 3 61cm with essentially the same fit. It's aluminum with 105 stuff (at least when I bought it a couple years ago), disk brakes and I have 40mm tires on it with room to spare.

65Marinoni

DonBjr . Besides my 65Marinoni I also have a Trek Ion cx 62 cm and a Trek 2.3 ''64cm'' a real s.-t. of 61cm for the later . The geo chart is very similar to the Cross rip 3 . Both of my Trek share the same 27.2 dia seat post with a collar on it . I just have to release the seat QR and put a spacer under the collar when using it for the 2.3 . So , I could share the same seat/seatpost for both . The current '18 Émonda with 105 get an inverted seat post and the 64cm is in reality a 61.3cm .

NoTrail

Have you checked out the Niner RLT 9 yet? I just built the steel version of that bike and love it!! At 6'4", I have fairly long legs (but not as long as you) and typically ride a 61-62cm bike. The Niner RLT 9 comes in a 59cm and 62cm. I ended up going with the 59cm (which is perfect for me) because when standing over the 62cm frame, I was resting on the top tube. So their 62cm might be worth a look. Comes in steel, carbon, or aluminum.