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Where have all the canti-lever framesets gone?

Old 09-28-18, 08:07 PM
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cantilever brakes stop just fine but more importantly look cooler than discs ever could.
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Old 09-30-18, 10:19 PM
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I like the look and simplicity of cantilevers but on long descents using short-pull brifters they hurt my arthritic hands.
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Old 10-02-18, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by raria View Post

Both appear to have short head tubes and I have no idea how stiff they are or how they ride. Any insight from owners? Both are gravel/cyclo bikes
I ride a 58cm 2008 KHS CX 200 as my gravel/road bike. I appreciate its long, low geometry (relative to today's gravel bikes). I have a 405mm axle-to-crown fork with 45mm rake on mine. I paid $26 more than the current Bike Island price for my frame (with gaudy KHS branding) and a used carbon fork (from a Trek hybrid). Stack and reach are 559mm and 414mm respectively. The smallest 2 sizes would have 548mm stack. Since all sizes have the same seat angle, you can work out the other reaches from the top tube lengths.
The biggest issue with these frames is called out on the Bike Island page -- the chainstays don't clear popular road cranks. I crimped my chainstays and filed the corner off my crankarms because I wanted to use my SRAM Rival cranks and Stages power meter. The paint on the chainstays didn't survive the process, but the bike is fully functional. The other issue (for me) is that it doesn't have fender mounts.
It's been a solid bike for me. I use it for a mix of gravel rides, fast group road rides, commuting, and baby hauling. The handling is on the stable side of neutral. I never get concerned about handling or traction while bombing steep gravel descents. The torsional and lateral stiffness are high enough to be a non-issue. I've never ridden it with skinny tires to find out whether the frame soaks up any road vibration -- I very much doubt that it would be comfortable with 23mm tires.
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Old 10-03-18, 09:33 PM
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Just in the house.
As long as CL will cough up these bikes, I am not worried.
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Old 11-02-18, 07:29 AM
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To answer my own questions

Some new old stock vendors (i.e. RandomBikeParts.com) have many in stock.

What are the other new old stock vendors out there?

Originally Posted by raria View Post
I enjoy building up bikes from framesets to get exactly what I want. I wanted a frameset with larger tire clearance but I prefer to take the canti or v-brake route rather than the disc-brake route and was hoping to find some good cantilever framesets out there for under $500.

Only found one decent weighted one (New Albion Privateer) but not much else, not even on e-bay. Perhaps I'm searching in the wrong places?
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Old 11-02-18, 10:01 AM
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these are carbon
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Old 11-02-18, 10:15 AM
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Nice Bianchi! I had bid on a couple of those when they came through eBay but never won one.
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classic
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Old 11-03-18, 11:13 AM
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Nice Bianchi! I had bid on a couple of those when they came through eBay but never won one.
Thanks! Got it for a great price. The “ I don’t ride it, want it out of my garage” price. Nice older gentleman, kudos for trying it out for awhile.
Have been making changes to it little by little. OT is a newer set of Avid shorty 6 canti brakes for it. Stops when I need it to.
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Old 11-03-18, 11:15 AM
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classic
Me likey! Classic in every sense of the word.
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Old 11-03-18, 04:18 PM
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A Surly Cross Check was my answer when I went looking for a high-tire-clearance canti frame. Hydraulic discs are great on my mountain bike, but that’s the only bike I want them on. Cantis have been reliable, simple, and light enough for cyclocross bikes for years and years, and when set up correctly work just as effectively for gravel bikes today. The fashion divas will disapprove, but who cares?
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Old 11-07-18, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by gus6464 View Post
Because canti is dead. Disc is better in every way.
Canti bikes will be lighter which is better if you are actually racing cross. Good canti with good pads are better then cheap mechanical discs on most entry level bikes in my opinion. And if you live in a place like SoCal like we both do where there is virtually no rain, mud, ice, snow then there is more of an argument for canti. I agree the industry is pushing all cross and road bikes toward discs but they still are not better in every way. It would be nice to see entry level cross bikes with canti instead of mechanical discs but that would require companies to make two versions of the same frame which is probably the main reason we don't see many canti frames
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Old 11-11-18, 06:44 PM
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Canti bikes will be lighter which is better if you are actually racing cross.
You forgot that canti is less expensive and simpler to maintain/service. Two levers, a few bolts and a pair of springs.
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