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Old 06-07-19, 08:38 AM
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Schwalbe G OneAll Around Set up

Have a set of 35 mm Schwalbe G one All Around tires which were set up tubeless on Stan's Grail rims. Last year, I took those tires off and replaced them with another tire with more tread. Now I want to go back to the G Ones. However, when I put them back on, I cant get them to seat. They do pop onto the rim, but when I deflate them, they don't stay seated. I put a tube in and pumped it up and left it for a week. I then deflated the tube and removed it, but in the process both beads detached from the rim. I tried to re-seat after using soapy water and once again the tires popped right on but when I deflated them both beads came off the rim.

Should there be a problem re-using a tubeless tire? It set up flawlessly when new but now it won't go onto the same rim. Any thoughts on why this would be happening? Will I need to replace with brand new tires? Seems like a waste since there's plenty of tread left of the tires.
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So, my answer to any tubeless tire related problem is skinny-strippers (latex strips).
One of their many features is to form a loose bond to the tire, completely sealing the air chamber. If the bead brakes loose, no worries. It still holds air, will not burp, loses no sealant. Just add air and keep going.

I'm wondering if you don't have a wheel issue? My tubeless wheels hold the tire by having them pop onto the rim bed. One of them is even hookelss. So the tire is held in place by the rim bed. Is your rim like this?

I've remounted and mounted G-ones with no issues.
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Not sure if this will be relevant but I had all kinds of problems with Schwalbe G-One Allaround on American Classic wheels. American Classic tubeless wheel dimensions are based on Stans wheel specs.

Mine kept blowing off the rims. Lots of others report the same behavior. Post number 6 by Guitar Ted in the thread linked below explained the issue best...

https://ridinggravel.forumchitchat.c...2&random=81249

My guess is that Schwalbe is splitting the difference between various tubeless standards.

I switched to Panaracer Gravelking SK and had no further problems until the American Classic wheels gave out.

The bike now has hookless carbon wheels and I might try a pair of Schwalbe's because they are roll so nicely.
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TimothyH,

i had had read that thread earlier too. The problem with that theory is when the tires were brand new hey went right on and I rode them without a hitch. It’s only after change tires and now went to switch back to the G Ones that I’m experiencing a problem.
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What I wrote wasn't a theory about why your tires won't say seated. I even said said I don't know if it is relevant.

That Schwalbe G-One Allaround don't work well with Stans rims or their derivatives is all but an established fact.

The question why is a forensic exercise - what we in the IT world call "root cause analysis." RCA is always a low priority ticket.

My advice is to cut your losses. I wish I had.


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i had had read that thread earlier too. The problem with that theory is when the tires were brand new hey went right on and I rode them without a hitch. Itís only after change tires and now went to switch back to the G Ones that Iím experiencing a problem.
That is odd, especially since those beads don't seem to stretch at all. I've mounted, remounted, tried to put them on rims they didn't fit on, ridden them lots - and what you are saying doesn't make any sense (I believe you, I just can't figure it out). You never did mention what holds your bead in place - is it the hook on the side of the rim, or the rim bed? Either way, skinny strippers would solve the problem.
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How well did you clean the tires before you put 'em away?
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