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Looking for 2X crank for my gravel bike

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My dealer just told me Easton is coming out with lighter EC90SL crank in August. Price seems to be the same.
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Originally Posted by BluesDawg View Post
Shimano says you'll need the new FD, so that's the official answer. Real world answer will have to wait until someone tries the new crank with their existing FD. If there is enough adjustment available on your outer limit screw to move the derailleur out 2.5mm, I can't think of any reason it wouldn't work just fine.

For all of us running SRAM shifters made for Yaw type FDs, thus having no trim steps in the shift pattern, I sure hope it will work.
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Originally Posted by BluesDawg View Post
Shimano says you'll need the new FD, so that's the official answer. Real world answer will have to wait until someone tries the new crank with their existing FD. If there is enough adjustment available on your outer limit screw to move the derailleur out 2.5mm, I can't think of any reason it wouldn't work just fine.

For all of us running SRAM shifters made for Yaw type FDs, thus having no trim steps in the shift pattern, I sure hope it will work.
Didn't Shimano similarly tweak the chainline on the R8000 and R9100 parts?
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Using R8000 rear derailleur but haven't switched crankset yet. Thanks for all the posts as have a crank change in my future and wondered about 10/11 spd compatibility. Don't want to break the bank but wondered about new shimano gravel for 31x48 or 30x46. Both make a lot of sense. Otherwise Sram or Fsa 2x works great too. Have FSA compact 34x50 on my road and replaced chainrings after 6 years and many thousands of miles as it was my everything bike.
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Originally Posted by jp911 View Post
I've been happy with Ultegra 6800 cranks with Shimano 46-34 rings.
I didnít know that was an Ultegra option. Pretty nice.

Anyhow, the gear jumps on these cranksets are getting ridiculous. 46-30? 48-31? And then pairing these tiny little chainrings with massive cogs...youíd think everyone was hauling 150lbs of crap over a mountain pass.
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Originally Posted by Banzai View Post
I didnít know that was an Ultegra option. Pretty nice.

Anyhow, the gear jumps on these cranksets are getting ridiculous. 46-30? 48-31? And then pairing these tiny little chainrings with massive cogs...youíd think everyone was hauling 150lbs of crap over a mountain pass.
Ten years ago, when I was in cycling shape, it was the opposite. I was ashamed of my 11-32 and instead went with a 12-25 with my compacts(running a 12-26 now). Never ever used the granny gear. All my climbing was done 34 in front 23 in back with the 25 my bailout gear. What happened to HTFU?
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Originally Posted by jideta View Post
Ten years ago, when I was in cycling shape, it was the opposite. I was ashamed of my 11-32 and instead went with a 12-25 with my compacts(running a 12-26 now). Never ever used the granny gear. All my climbing was done 34 in front 23 in back with the 25 my bailout gear. What happened to HTFU?
When I climbed Haleakala last year, I upsized my cassette and by the end bottomed out in my 34/28 ratio.

In light of these new, silly drivetrains, I guess I have to specify that it was a 34t chainring, and 28t cog.

Not too long ago, that would have gone without saying.
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What happened to HTFU?
The 90s stole their machismo back.
So now everyone is free to ride how they want/need without shame and judgement.
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Originally Posted by Banzai View Post
Anyhow, the gear jumps on these cranksets are getting ridiculous. 46-30? 48-31? And then pairing these tiny little chainrings with massive cogs...you’d think everyone was hauling 150lbs of crap over a mountain pass.
46-30=16
50-34=16

Same gap most people have been using for years. If you don't want or need the lower gearing that some of us do, you don't have to buy it. I hope you enjoy your riding. I'm sure you don't mind if I do what I need to do to enjoy mine.

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Originally Posted by jideta View Post
Ten years ago, when I was in cycling shape, it was the opposite. I was ashamed of my 11-32 and instead went with a 12-25 with my compacts(running a 12-26 now). Never ever used the granny gear. All my climbing was done 34 in front 23 in back with the 25 my bailout gear. What happened to HTFU?
Some of us here are in our 50's, 60's and there are BF members in their 80's.

There is at least one cancer survivor on this thread.

I haul 35 lb of gear up 17% grades when bikepacking.

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I'm 56. Started cycling when my kidneys failed and I had to go on dialysis about ten years ago.
My hemoglobin level is around 11, lower than women. That's with the EPO.
Ten years ago I was doing about 100 miles a week.
Now, not so much.
Pretty sure my best cycling days are behind me.
Definitely not superman.
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What happened to HTFU?
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Some of us are in great shape and could def push a harder gear if we wanted to, the question is why if you don't have to?? I don't need the ego boost, I'll keep rocking my 32-34.
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Originally Posted by jideta View Post
Ten years ago, when I was in cycling shape, it was the opposite. I was ashamed of my 11-32 and instead went with a 12-25 with my compacts(running a 12-26 now). Never ever used the granny gear. All my climbing was done 34 in front 23 in back with the 25 my bailout gear. What happened to HTFU?
I feel ashamed when getting off the bike and walking up the steep hills. To each his own.
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I feel ashamed when getting off the bike and walking up the steep hills. To each his own.
Nobody is watching.
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Nobody is watching.
Unless it is an organized ride. Then hang your head in shame.

Did Lazy Horse gravel grind in May. One man had a basically brand new Salsa bike with Ultegra munch a righty-brifter cable inside the brifter....He did 80% of the course with a 2-speed. And was still dropping people left and right.
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Nobody is watching.
Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti View Post
Unless it is an organized ride. Then hang your head in shame.
I'll know.
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Originally Posted by FlashBazbo View Post
I rode nothing but Shimano cranks for 13 years . . . until recently. I went to an FSA Modular Adventure (46/30) crankset and I have been very happy with the results. The gearing is what I want but, to my surprise, the shifting (and lack of noise) is perfect. No real difference (shifting wise) between the FSA and the Shimano cranksets on my other bikes.

To go to the Shimano gravel crank requires not just the purchase of the crank, but also the purchase of a new front derailleur. That makes it an expensive upgrade. And I doubt it will be available as a separate component to the public until 2020. (I hope I'm wrong, but history has a way of repeating itself. Shimano tends to "introduce" things nine months to a year before they are generally available to the public.) As it is, I'm perfectly happy with the FSA. I won't be changing.
I have always been leery of FSA cranks. In the beginning they were having some serious QC issues. Iím glad to hear things have been taken care of. They are very nice looking as far as cranksets go. Good luck
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Originally Posted by BluesDawg View Post
Shimano says you'll need the new FD, so that's the official answer. Real world answer will have to wait until someone tries the new crank with their existing FD. If there is enough adjustment available on your outer limit screw to move the derailleur out 2.5mm, I can't think of any reason it wouldn't work just fine.
Someone has to be making a clamp on adaptor for braze on ft derailleurs that pushes the derailleur out more. If not, I sure hope Problem Solvers is working on it.

Of course, it might not be too economical to buy an adaptor plus braze on derailleur instead of just the correct GRX derailleur, but if you already have a spare derailleur...
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Originally Posted by BluesDawg View Post
46-30=16
50-34=16

Same gap most people have been using for years. If you don't want or need the lower gearing that some of us do, you don't have to buy it. I hope you enjoy your riding. I'm sure you don't mind if I do what I need to do to enjoy mine.
Percentages.

You don't feel the 16t as an absolute. You feel it as a percentage of ratio changed.

The percentage jumps are getting ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by Banzai View Post
Percentages.

You don't feel the 16t as an absolute. You feel it as a percentage of ratio changed.

The percentage jumps are getting ridiculous.
One of the purposes of using a smaller double is to do less front shifting, though. It basically becomes a 1x-plus-bailout.

Without using smaller rings, it's hard to get super-low bottom gears or a low big-ring bottom gear unless you use a very wide-range cassette, and frequent wide rear-shift jumps can be more annoying than an occasional front shift being a few percent bigger.

A triple fixes both problems, but they're losing support.
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Percentages.

You don't feel the 16t as an absolute. You feel it as a percentage of ratio changed.

The percentage jumps are getting ridiculous.
You do know about shifting the front and then shifting the back right? Shoot, Di2's "synchro" and "semi-synchro" do it for you.
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I prefer to save my knees. I run a 50-34 in the front and a 11-36 10 speed in the back. Pondering an upgrade to a 46-30 or 46-36 myself.
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