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Niner MCR
So it's finally out and Jenson has it in stock. Who's biting the bullet?
https://www.jensonusa.com/Niner-MCR-...r-1x-Bike-2020 Full GRX800 and the dropper post is properly installed with the left GRX shifter. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/00...g?v=1572374576 |
It will be interesting to see it in competition, to see if the comfort provided by suspension outweighs the added weight in a race. Certainly, when the terrain gets rough enough, the suspension will result in increased speed over an unsuspended bike.
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$6,000 for a FS bike w/ 40mm travel in front and 50mm rear? No NO NO........ for that price it needs to have a motor.
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Originally Posted by trailangel
(Post 21189025)
$6,000 for a FS bike w/ 40mm travel in front and 50mm rear? No NO NO........ for that price it needs to have a motor.
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Originally Posted by Chi_Z
(Post 21189075)
$6000 can only get you a frame from Moots, prices are relative
Who said anything about a Moots TI frame? This frame is carbon fiber..... IT'S PLASTIC |
Originally Posted by trailangel
(Post 21189025)
$6,000 for a FS bike w/ 40mm travel in front and 50mm rear? No NO NO........ for that price it needs to have a motor.
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Seems like a dedicated FS-XC-MTB is going to be better in almost any situation compared to this, unless you truly want a drop bar MTB.
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Originally Posted by trailangel
(Post 21189101)
Hey
Who said anything about a Moots TI frame? This frame is carbon fiber..... IT'S PLASTIC |
I bet it will be yeare before most of us ever see one of those out on the gravel...
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Originally Posted by dwmckee
(Post 21189311)
I bet it will be yeare before most of us ever see one of those out on the gravel...
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I thought the GCN video on this was interesting. It didn't really sell me on the idea of owning one of these. Not to mention the cost.
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Originally Posted by Spoonrobot
(Post 21189471)
I think it's going to end up the same place as the Slate, an interesting diversion but not really anything long-lasting. Just doesn't seem to do more that slightly larger tires won't do, without the added complexity and cost.
Uphill fight for Niner...they don't have near the market presence locally that Cannondale does. |
I'm considering one of these......I love my Slate and my GF may inherit that one I recently upgraded, and hope to test one of these shortly.
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Originally Posted by Spoonrobot
(Post 21189471)
I think it's going to end up the same place as the Slate, an interesting diversion but not really anything long-lasting. Just doesn't seem to do more that slightly larger tires won't do, without the added complexity and cost.
the Niner RLT with an AX fork was 100x better than the slate. I am just going to walk way out on a guess, and say that this MCR would be as fun to ride as my hi-mod scalpel. Except being in road Geo, and with drop bars! |
I won't be racing so the additional weight makes no difference to me. If I can ride that much longer, and more comfortably, cost isn't a factor.
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I just replaced the suspension fork on my drop bar 29er with a rigid one, so there's my choice...
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Originally Posted by Caliper
(Post 21195870)
I just replaced the suspension fork on my drop bar 29er with a rigid one, so there's my choice...
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Originally Posted by trailangel
(Post 21189101)
Hey
Who said anything about a Moots TI frame? This frame is carbon fiber..... IT'S PLASTIC |
Originally Posted by thehammerdog
(Post 21196225)
U know that carbon fiber has zero relationship with plastic?
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Originally Posted by thehammerdog
(Post 21196225)
U know that carbon fiber has zero relationship with plastic?
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I think there is a disconnect with many riders on what suspension can give them far beyond the 'comfort' thing.
y'all know what happens when you pedal skip? The rear wheel comes off the ground, and sometimes you recover, sometimes you don't? Now skip your rear wheel off of a rock. Suspension helps with keeping your wheels on the surface. |
Originally Posted by gus6464
(Post 21196556)
https://diffzi.com/resin-vs-plastic/ which means that when you mix Carbon and Resin..... It isn't exactly carbon and plastic. Probably why drive shafts are carbon fiber, and Bumpers are ABS plastic etc..... |
Originally Posted by Metieval
(Post 21196612)
crazy they never distinguish the difference between Resins and plastic in that article.
https://diffzi.com/resin-vs-plastic/ which means that when you mix Carbon and Resin..... It isn't exactly carbon and plastic. Probably why drive shafts are carbon fiber, and Bumpers are ABS plastic etc..... The resins used in bicycle frame construction are generally synthetic polymer resins, not some stuff scraped off a tree. The reason that a thermoplastic bumper isn't referred to as "carbon fiber" is because it's usually a purely plastic molding with no carbon fiber in it. If a plastic bumper was laid up with sheets of carbon fiber reinforcing the structure, people would call it "carbon fiber", but there would still be plastic bonding the carbon sheets. I'm not saying that it makes sense to use "it's plastic" as a broad insult to carbon frames. But plastic does not have "nothing" to do with carbon frames. |
Originally Posted by HTupolev
(Post 21196672)
The reason that a thermoplastic bumper isn't referred to as "carbon fiber" is because it's usually a purely plastic molding with no carbon fiber in it. If a plastic bumper was laid up with sheets of carbon fiber reinforcing the structure, people would call it "carbon fiber", but there would still be plastic bonding the carbon sheets.
Whoosh! you missed the practicality side of the differences! |
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