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Finally got on the Revolt Advanced 2 and Topstone Carbon...which bike

Old 06-14-20, 02:09 PM
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Finally got on the Revolt Advanced 2 and Topstone Carbon...which bike

I finally got on both bikes. Liked the feel better than the Checkpoint (although I never got to ride the Carbon unfortunately). I am 5'6-5'7, so the medium Revolt worked, but medium Topstone was way to big. They are going to have a small this week. Going to be a tough decision, but feeling lucky to have a chance to ride them side by side given the way bike's are going these days.

Any last thoughts or considerations? I like the idea of the D-fuse system in both the handles and seat of the Revolt versus just Kingpin in the back on the Topstone. Not that I will buy on looks...but Giant is also a nicer looking bike in my opinion. Components are nearly identical as I will be doing road riding I don't want the SRAM of the Revolt 1. Any other considerations I should be throwing into the mix between the two or are they so close that I should just go on feel...even though that seems darn close.
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I finally got on both bikes. Liked the feel better than the Checkpoint (although I never got to ride the Carbon unfortunately). I am 5'6-5'7, so the medium Revolt worked, but medium Topstone was way to big. They are going to have a small this week. Going to be a tough decision, but feeling lucky to have a chance to ride them side by side given the way bike's are going these days.

Any last thoughts or considerations? I like the idea of the D-fuse system in both the handles and seat of the Revolt versus just Kingpin in the back on the Topstone. Not that I will buy on looks...but Giant is also a nicer looking bike in my opinion. Components are nearly identical as I will be doing road riding I don't want the SRAM of the Revolt 1. Any other considerations I should be throwing into the mix between the two or are they so close that I should just go on feel...even though that seems darn close.
Proprietary stuff sucks? D fuse is cool n all, but you are so limited down the road.
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Proprietary stuff sucks? D fuse is cool n all, but you are so limited down the road.
You're only limited on the seatpost, can change the bars. But the seatpost works well, so I haven't seen a need to change it.

Another thing to consider if you still can't decide between the two, is Giant's two year crash replacement warranty. A friend of mine was involved in a pileup on a road ride and cracked a chainstay, Giant replaced the frame no questions asked.
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You're only limited on the seatpost, can change the bars. But the seatpost works well, so I haven't seen a need to change it.

Another thing to consider if you still can't decide between the two, is Giant's two year crash replacement warranty. A friend of mine was involved in a pileup on a road ride and cracked a chainstay, Giant replaced the frame no questions asked.
If you like the seat post, all is good.
at one time I loved my Sony memory stick for my camera until they quit making them, RIP Carl Zeiss lens. Held back by limited storage! Anyways I've been burnt by proprietary stuff too often.

Warranty is a good reason to buy a bike! I Actually went with the RDO part of it was the headtube angle, part of it was the seatpost, part of it was the 3 mounts on fork, part of it was the new frames mounting points and the bags made for it. A huge part of it was the GRX option now, and I didn't want to wait.

Truth be told I was all about the Revolt Carbon up until Niner revamped their tire clearance to fit 650 on the RDO

Will I regret the Toe overlap instead of going with the Revolt? LOL dude I have buyers remorse on any bicycle I buy.

and if the RDO gets set up with fenders, rack dyno hub etc.. then maybe some day I'll want a simple 1x Carbon Revolt.... you know just for Rding Gravel.
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I have a Revolt Advanced 2. It’s a GREAT bike. Yes, the seat post is proprietary, but as stated before, it works great and I have never even thought about changing it. Out of all the gravel bikes out there with weird suspension, bushings, etc., the Giant is pretty mechanic friendly. I swapped the wheels, because the stock ones are boat anchors, as well as tires and added a GRX rear mech just for fun.
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Originally Posted by Metieval View Post
If you like the seat post, all is good.
at one time I loved my Sony memory stick for my camera until they quit making them, RIP Carl Zeiss lens. Held back by limited storage! Anyways I've been burnt by proprietary stuff too often.

Warranty is a good reason to buy a bike! I Actually went with the RDO part of it was the headtube angle, part of it was the seatpost, part of it was the 3 mounts on fork, part of it was the new frames mounting points and the bags made for it. A huge part of it was the GRX option now, and I didn't want to wait.

Truth be told I was all about the Revolt Carbon up until Niner revamped their tire clearance to fit 650 on the RDO

Will I regret the Toe overlap instead of going with the Revolt? LOL dude I have buyers remorse on any bicycle I buy.

and if the RDO gets set up with fenders, rack dyno hub etc.. then maybe some day I'll want a simple 1x Carbon Revolt.... you know just for Rding Gravel.
I'm the same way, always second guess my decisions! lol Actually looking at Ti now for gravel, even tho I love the Revolt, just thinking long term and the abuse that the Revolt has already been through in just one year lol A standard seatpost would be nice too, then I have the option of going with a dropper if I want (could have used one on my ride on Sat, steepest/chunkiest gravel I've ever been on, almost a mtb route, but a dropper and 650b wheels would have worked well).
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I'm the same way, always second guess my decisions! lol Actually looking at Ti now for gravel, even tho I love the Revolt, just thinking long term and the abuse that the Revolt has already been through in just one year lol A standard seatpost would be nice too, then I have the option of going with a dropper if I want (could have used one on my ride on Sat, steepest/chunkiest gravel I've ever been on, almost a mtb route, but a dropper and 650b wheels would have worked well).

bottom line, I think a lot comes down to environment and how a person is going to ride a bicycle.

I guess I don't have enough Experience really to feed the OP between the 2 choices. I just have opinions, and I'd rather dish a new wheel set once, and have multiple seatpost options.
At the same time I land square in between small and medium on the Topstone and am not comfortable on either where as a Medium Revolt is a good fit for me. Size matters
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I have a Revolt Advanced 2. Itís a GREAT bike. Yes, the seat post is proprietary, but as stated before, it works great and I have never even thought about changing it. Out of all the gravel bikes out there with weird suspension, bushings, etc., the Giant is pretty mechanic friendly. I swapped the wheels, because the stock ones are boat anchors, as well as tires and added a GRX rear mech just for fun.
did you ride the topstone before buying the revolt? Any comparisons? Lots of talk of the more racing style of the revolt but I donít really see it in the geometry charts...
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did you ride the topstone before buying the revolt? Any comparisons? Lots of talk of the more racing style of the revolt but I donít really see it in the geometry charts...
I did not. The Topstone was never really on my radar because of the propriety suspension as well as the max tire clearance being only 40ís.
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I did not. The Topstone was never really on my radar because of the propriety suspension as well as the max tire clearance being only 40ís.
How is the proprietary suspension in the Topstone any different than the Revolt? What other bikes did you consider? And what were the key features that led you to the Giant? Thanks!
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The carbon version of the Topstone has “Kingpin” suspension which is a pivot point with a bushing that allows the rear to flex like 30mm or something like that. It probably can go a long time without any problems, but I just didnt want to deal with any of that. I liked the Giant because of it’s simplicity. No suspension, good tire clearance (I run 42’s with plenty of room even with a front mech), the warranty was also great.
I’m sure the cannondale is a great bike, it just didnt click all the boxes that I personally wanted.
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Also just as a heads up, the carbon version of the Topstone requires a specific wheel dish for the rear wheel. If you were ever to upgrade the wheels, you would have to get it built to fit your bike
https://bikerumor.com/2019/06/20/can...ar-suspension/
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Originally Posted by BluFalconActual View Post
Also just as a heads up, the carbon version of the Topstone requires a specific wheel dish for the rear wheel. If you were ever to upgrade the wheels, you would have to get it built to fit your bike
https://bikerumor.com/2019/06/20/can...ar-suspension/
I have read that about the wheels before. Any idea what something like that would cost? Iíd love to get road tires for whatever bike I buy as a second set.
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