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Old 06-24-20, 07:26 AM
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Bar end shifter cable routing question

Is there a way to run a bar end shifter cable without wrapping under the bar tape? I got a bike that I run single speed but occasionally I want gears. For those times I was thinking of sticking a bar end shifter in but I don't always want the cable housing sticking out from under the bar tape going to the down to boss. And I don't feel like unwrapping my bars every time I switch.
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I'd wrap it all the way underneath the tape and leave the housing going to the downtube boss, then you can pull the shifter cable and the housing loop going to the derailleur... might need to buy a tandem length shifter cable though. The other thing might be to have the housing routed normally but on top of the tape, then use another short piece of bar tape to wrap over it when you've got gears installed. Easy enough to unwrap the short piece of tape and remove the bar-end shifter.
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I use a right side bar end shifter on mine. It's under the tape and great. I wouldn't want it any other way but I'm certain you could do it modular like you want. It'd probably be a 5 minute change.

However, on install it was pretty obvious that I could have just wrapped the bar then ran housing to the shifter, so it would all be on the outside. You'd probably have to secure the housing in a spot or two to keep it from rubbing the wheel.

I use a Microshift 10 speed shifter.
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Set the bike up fully geared.
Then when you want to run it as a single speed, just dont shift.
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Originally Posted by trail_monkey View Post
Is there a way to run a bar end shifter cable without wrapping under the bar tape? I got a bike that I run single speed but occasionally I want gears. For those times I was thinking of sticking a bar end shifter in but I don't always want the cable housing sticking out from under the bar tape going to the down to boss. And I don't feel like unwrapping my bars every time I switch.
I assume you put a different chain on ?, not running it thru the rear derailer ?, and do you remove the derailer as well ?. And the cable ?. And want to know how best to route the shift housing at the bar ?, leaving the shifter ?.

BIG WHY ?.

As mstateglfr stated, maybe leave it all alone and just don't shift. Or do what most people would do, get a 2nd bike, one with gears, one as single speed.
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Originally Posted by Steve B. View Post
I assume you put a different chain on ?, not running it thru the rear derailer ?, and do you remove the derailer as well ?. And the cable ?. And want to know how best to route the shift housing at the bar ?, leaving the shifter ?.

BIG WHY ?.

As mstateglfr stated, maybe leave it all alone and just don't shift. Or do what most people would do, get a 2nd bike, one with gears, one as single speed.
I usually run single speed but if I want to put gears on I throw them on. No I do not run through my derailleur. when I go single speed I literally go single speed. My bike has Paragon sliders so I have chain adjustment.
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Originally Posted by trail_monkey View Post
Is there a way to run a bar end shifter cable without wrapping under the bar tape? I got a bike that I run single speed but occasionally I want gears. For those times I was thinking of sticking a bar end shifter in but I don't always want the cable housing sticking out from under the bar tape going to the down to boss. And I don't feel like unwrapping my bars every time I switch.
In that case maybe a downtube shifter? If not you certainly could run it from a bar end shifter outside the bar tape. I'd use a big rubber band or innertube piece at the end of the bar right by the shifter to hold the housing close to the bar and keep it from flopping around.
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Originally Posted by rosefarts View Post
I use a right side bar end shifter on mine. It's under the tape and great. I wouldn't want it any other way but I'm certain you could do it modular like you want. It'd probably be a 5 minute change.

However, on install it was pretty obvious that I could have just wrapped the bar then ran housing to the shifter, so it would all be on the outside. You'd probably have to secure the housing in a spot or two to keep it from rubbing the wheel.

I use a Microshift 10 speed shifter.
I have a micro shift 10 speed shifter as well. I thought about just running the housing to the shifter but doesn't it flop around quite a bit? I had an idea that I have a roll of velcro strips and I could just tightly wrap the housing to the drop hook to secure it
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Originally Posted by tyrion View Post
In that case maybe a downtube shifter? If not you certainly could run it from a bar end shifter outside the bar tape. I'd use a big rubber band or innertube piece at the end of the bar right by the shifter to hold the housing close to the bar and keep it from flopping around.
I've been running a downtube shifter and I really liked it at first but with the constant up-and-down roller-coaster hills where I live it just becomes very fatiguing on a longer ride to be reaching down to shift that often. And yeah as I mentioned to the other person I'm thinking about wrapping a velcro strip around to secure it and then I can just rip it off real quick and be done
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Originally Posted by trail_monkey View Post
I've been running a downtube shifter and I really liked it at first but with the constant up-and-down roller-coaster hills where I live it just becomes very fatiguing on a longer ride to be reaching down to shift that often. And yeah as I mentioned to the other person I'm thinking about wrapping a velcro strip around to secure it and then I can just rip it off real quick and be done
Or a thumbie shifter on the bar close to the stem.
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Originally Posted by tyrion View Post
Or a thumbie shifter on the bar close to the stem.
I do have a Shimano mountain bike shifter that I could probably Mount up there.
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You want to occasionally convert your SS to a multi-gear bike, and then go back to SS -- and you think dealing with the shift cable will be the biggest hassle?
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Originally Posted by trail_monkey View Post
I have a micro shift 10 speed shifter as well. I thought about just running the housing to the shifter but doesn't it flop around quite a bit? I had an idea that I have a roll of velcro strips and I could just tightly wrap the housing to the drop hook to secure it
Like I said. It can be done, I don't think it should be done and I certainly wouldn't do it myself.

I'd set the gravel bike you have as a 1x10 and leave it for one month. If at the end of the month you want single speed on your constantly rolling ride, then it's time to shop for a fun single speed project.

My guess, and I say this as someone who has ridden thousands of miles on single speeds over the years, you'll like the gears better.
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Can you just not shift when you have the derailer?
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You want to occasionally convert your SS to a multi-gear bike, and then go back to SS -- and you think dealing with the shift cable will be the biggest hassle?
Uhh yeah.... It's not hard to remove a derailleur, cassette, and swap chains. Takes 10 minutes at most with the right tools minus any cabling issues. I keep my cog and spacers together so a simple toss back on and chain line is where it was before. Easy cheesy
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Originally Posted by Elvo View Post
Can you just not shift when you have the derailer?
Sure but if you've never ridden single speed you don't realize how much extra drag that creates... Let's not forget certain rides are benefitted without a derailleur due to conditions...... Think this year's Mid South...I prefer single speed on this bike but it's nice to have options.
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Originally Posted by trail_monkey View Post
Sure but if you've never ridden single speed you don't realize how much extra drag that creates... Let's not forget certain rides are benefitted without a derailleur due to conditions...... Think this year's Mid South...I prefer single speed on this bike but it's nice to have options.
For the record, my original comment was mostly in jest. While it's doable, I know it isn't the same as an actual SS.
I cant imagine removing the wheel then swapping the chain, cassette, RD, and cables on and off each time.
More power to you on that.

As for the midsouth being a good place for a SS bike, sure in that very extreme example I could see the benefit if the cyclist can handle it.
So in a competitive race where you must ride regardless of conditions and its often peanutbutter mud for roads, a single speed can be beneficial. Since most of us ride recreationally 95% of the time and when conditions are horrid can choose to either not ride that day or simply take a better road, that example isn't applicable to a vast majority of collective rides here.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
For the record, my original comment was mostly in jest. While it's doable, I know it isn't the same as an actual SS.
I cant imagine removing the wheel then swapping the chain, cassette, RD, and cables on and off each time.
More power to you on that.

As for the midsouth being a good place for a SS bike, sure in that very extreme example I could see the benefit if the cyclist can handle it.
So in a competitive race where you must ride regardless of conditions and its often peanutbutter mud for roads, a single speed can be beneficial. Since most of us ride recreationally 95% of the time and when conditions are horrid can choose to either not ride that day or simply take a better road, that example isn't applicable to a vast majority of collective rides here.
Same with me. I ride recreationally. I cater to all types though as my race requires it.
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Why not just run the housing outside the wrap? Absolutely nothing wrong with that approach, I’ve done it on several builds.
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Originally Posted by Chris_in_Miami View Post
Why not just run the housing outside the wrap? Absolutely nothing wrong with that approach, Iíve done it on several builds.
I tried it and I use a strip of velcro to secure it to the drop. It seemed to work pretty well.
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You don't even need the velcro, it's not going to fall off or anything.

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Found another example, I put a lot of miles on this one:
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