What to carry with tubeless wheels?
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If you crank the valve nut on with pliers then yeah your going to need a pair to get it back off. Suppose to only put them on finger tight but I've been guilty of busting out pliers myself when one ticks me off and won't quit leaking. I carry a leatherman with me on my mountain bikes but I don't bother on my road bike. My new valves that are on my roadie have a larger nut with a big flat spots on the sides that makes doing and undoing them by hand much easier so hopefully not an issue.
oh and a trick that helps. When you get the tire off the rim push down on the rubber part of the valve stem in the rim to take pressure off the nut while turning it. If you are having trouble getting the nut by hand that can make all the difference.
oh and a trick that helps. When you get the tire off the rim push down on the rubber part of the valve stem in the rim to take pressure off the nut while turning it. If you are having trouble getting the nut by hand that can make all the difference.
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Minimum:
Plug kit, pump.
Medium:
Add CO2, tire boot, spare tube, tire levers.
Maximum:
Add spare valve core, valve removal tool, extra sealant.
All of this assumes you carry tools needed for thru-axles, if you have them
Plug kit, pump.
Medium:
Add CO2, tire boot, spare tube, tire levers.
Maximum:
Add spare valve core, valve removal tool, extra sealant.
All of this assumes you carry tools needed for thru-axles, if you have them
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Cleverest thing I've read on bf in a while.
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If you crank the valve nut on with pliers then yeah your going to need a pair to get it back off. Suppose to only put them on finger tight but I've been guilty of busting out pliers myself when one ticks me off and won't quit leaking. I carry a leatherman with me on my mountain bikes but I don't bother on my road bike. My new valves that are on my roadie have a larger nut with a big flat spots on the sides that makes doing and undoing them by hand much easier so hopefully not an issue.
oh and a trick that helps. When you get the tire off the rim push down on the rubber part of the valve stem in the rim to take pressure off the nut while turning it. If you are having trouble getting the nut by hand that can make all the difference.
oh and a trick that helps. When you get the tire off the rim push down on the rubber part of the valve stem in the rim to take pressure off the nut while turning it. If you are having trouble getting the nut by hand that can make all the difference.
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I literally just redid my 27.5er hardtail a couple hours ago. Had to redo my rim tape so the valves had to come out. Resorted to pliers on the front valve when reinstalling. A little leak is fine since you can bounce it around and get the sealant to fix it but it was leaking like crazy till I got the pliers out. I used a new valve I had bought for my road bike on the rear and I think I'll be replacing all my valves with that style. It has a better designed nut that you can get tight by hand and works with tire inserts which I plan to run on the rear.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...TF8&th=1&psc=1
one I used but probably 500 other people have the exact same valves for sale on aliepress for $5 give take.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...TF8&th=1&psc=1
one I used but probably 500 other people have the exact same valves for sale on aliepress for $5 give take.
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In the early days of tubeless I had the front blow off while commuting to work. Doesn't take a lot of pressure.
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I've had 1 tubeless flat in 3 years of riding.
I sliced the sidewall of a tire on a broken beer bottle that was hidden in grass - I was warming up for a CX race and was able to fix the tire by booting it with a dollar bill and inserting a tube.
I carry a spare tube, 2 levers, dynaplug racer, 2 CO2's/head, and a multi-tool. I think I might have a spare valve core in my bag too, and that same dollar bill. This all fits into a tiny saddle bag.
I sliced the sidewall of a tire on a broken beer bottle that was hidden in grass - I was warming up for a CX race and was able to fix the tire by booting it with a dollar bill and inserting a tube.
I carry a spare tube, 2 levers, dynaplug racer, 2 CO2's/head, and a multi-tool. I think I might have a spare valve core in my bag too, and that same dollar bill. This all fits into a tiny saddle bag.
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That's my "standard" gravel/MTB kit, too. For longer days or rides further away from civilization, I'll add a mini pump and a second tube.
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I've had 1 tubeless flat in 3 years of riding.
I sliced the sidewall of a tire on a broken beer bottle that was hidden in grass - I was warming up for a CX race and was able to fix the tire by booting it with a dollar bill and inserting a tube.
I carry a spare tube, 2 levers, dynaplug racer, 2 CO2's/head, and a multi-tool. I think I might have a spare valve core in my bag too, and that same dollar bill. This all fits into a tiny saddle bag.
I sliced the sidewall of a tire on a broken beer bottle that was hidden in grass - I was warming up for a CX race and was able to fix the tire by booting it with a dollar bill and inserting a tube.
I carry a spare tube, 2 levers, dynaplug racer, 2 CO2's/head, and a multi-tool. I think I might have a spare valve core in my bag too, and that same dollar bill. This all fits into a tiny saddle bag.
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I'm a convert. So far they've proven more reliable at working the first time than bacon, and the insertion tool is a big improvement, IMO.
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Seems like it's a lot quicker, too. Last thing I want to do in a gravel race is fiddle around with threading a bacon strip through a tiny fork.
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Every bike I have is tubeless.
Every ride:
1. Dynaplug Racer, in jersey pocket. Stan's Darts and generic bacon strips both are inferior to Dynaplugs. Dynaplugs are expensive but worth it.
2. 16g generic threaded CO2 cartridge. I've found that every sealant works fine with CO2, despite what I've read. I still let the C02 out of the tire and reinflate when I get home.
3. Inflator with a controllable flow mechanism. There are lots of these, the $26 Pro Bike Tool with the little lever that is on Amazon is good, I also like the PDW Shiny Object.
4. Spare tube, which I have never had to use. Dynaplugs have sealed all of the (very rare) tubeless punctures the sealant can't deal with that I've had. I still bring a tube.
5. One lever.
For very long rides in rural areas, I add:
6. A minipump in the frame bag. I like designs with a little rubber hose. The Silca one is really good.
7. Motorcycle tire patch kit + vulcanizing fluid. This saved my ass once, they work really well and they're easy to use.
8. Another tube.
9. A couple more CO2 cartridges.
Every ride:
1. Dynaplug Racer, in jersey pocket. Stan's Darts and generic bacon strips both are inferior to Dynaplugs. Dynaplugs are expensive but worth it.
2. 16g generic threaded CO2 cartridge. I've found that every sealant works fine with CO2, despite what I've read. I still let the C02 out of the tire and reinflate when I get home.
3. Inflator with a controllable flow mechanism. There are lots of these, the $26 Pro Bike Tool with the little lever that is on Amazon is good, I also like the PDW Shiny Object.
4. Spare tube, which I have never had to use. Dynaplugs have sealed all of the (very rare) tubeless punctures the sealant can't deal with that I've had. I still bring a tube.
5. One lever.
For very long rides in rural areas, I add:
6. A minipump in the frame bag. I like designs with a little rubber hose. The Silca one is really good.
7. Motorcycle tire patch kit + vulcanizing fluid. This saved my ass once, they work really well and they're easy to use.
8. Another tube.
9. A couple more CO2 cartridges.
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Others covered it, but they're super easy to use. I haven't needed them while out on a ride yet, and just practiced using them on an old tire in my garage, but it was simple.
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I use Orange Seal (regular) and have never noticed any problems with cold weather - but I store my bikes indoors and don't really ride in temps below 20F.
Orange Seal makes a "subzero" product that has a lower temp range. I know people who do winter fat-biking and use it. I see on their website that they state the following:
What is the temperature range of Orange Seal sealants?Regular: 12 °F, Endurance: 8 °F, Sub Zero: –20 °F
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I don't mean cold in that way does the seal work as well? but rain is the big one I have gotten flats when its wet more often then any other time. wet and cold of course.
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When roads are wet, debris is more likely to stick to your tires and work its way through the casing.
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It really depends on the gravel where you ride. If you are riding on crushed limestone, your tires won't last nearly as long and you are more likely to experience a failure like cut sidewall or large hole in tread that will require a boot and/or tube at some point. If you are riding on mined gravel/river gravel like we have where I live (the plains states) you really don't need to carry much. I always have a pump and I only carry a tube on race day and even then I've not used one. Same goes with type of tire you ride. Obviously, tire choice should match what you are riding and will reduce your likelyhood of roadside repair dramatically.
I keep an eye on my sealant level (remove valvecore and use a dipstick to make sure there is some) and I don't have to do roadside repairs. Maybe once in the last 5 years and that was in Missouri, deep crushed limestone with potholes. Where I live I have never done one. I've had to stop and pump up the tire a few times due to an outrageous amount of goathead stickers but never taken a tire off the rim.
I keep an eye on my sealant level (remove valvecore and use a dipstick to make sure there is some) and I don't have to do roadside repairs. Maybe once in the last 5 years and that was in Missouri, deep crushed limestone with potholes. Where I live I have never done one. I've had to stop and pump up the tire a few times due to an outrageous amount of goathead stickers but never taken a tire off the rim.
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Is it worth carrying a small bottle of extra sealant? And how about a small pocket knife to trim off the back strip after you plug the hole? Is it worth carrying a mini pump Or better to just have extra co2 instead?