What's your minimum preferred tire width for gravel riding?
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Totally sold on my 650B x 47s. Wouldn't mind trying 50s at some point. But I ride more rocky fireroads and singletrack than actual "gravel" which we don't really have here, so that's a factor. I have another bike with 700c x 40s and I do enjoy what seems like a "faster" feel with those on smooth hardpack, and certainly on the road, but in anything rough it's a sketchier ride for sure.
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Agree with everyone running 40-43 tires. Currently on 43 gravelking SK's, and love the comfy ride when I air them down to 30-32psi on the native-surface roads in Northern CA (read: lumpy/rutted). If I was grinding farm gravel I would still choose 43s for the comfort!
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The 700 x 40c WTB Nano tires on my gravel bike are perfect, IMO.
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I don’t race, so I can choose the luxury of running my vintage MTB with 26x2.2 (559x64) Race King Protection. They are so comfy, enough tread to deal with winter messiness and surprisingly fast. Our gravel roads tend to have fairly big rock and I prefer big tires.
I also ride 700x32 sometimes if I’m just riding roads and crushed stone trails but would prefer a bit wider even for that.
Otto
I also ride 700x32 sometimes if I’m just riding roads and crushed stone trails but would prefer a bit wider even for that.
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Totally sold on my 650B x 47s. Wouldn't mind trying 50s at some point. But I ride more rocky fireroads and singletrack than actual "gravel" which we don't really have here, so that's a factor. I have another bike with 700c x 40s and I do enjoy what seems like a "faster" feel with those on smooth hardpack, and certainly on the road, but in anything rough it's a sketchier ride for sure.
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Gravel's such a wide spectrum of surfaces and preferred speeds that people ride at--for me, my gravel bike is more like an all-road bike. I like to ride fast, near road riding speeds. Over the bike's lifespan, it's probably seen 80% pavement and only 20% gravel, and <1% singletrack. Therefore, I run 35mm G-One Allrounds. This works best for me--it allows me to maintain decent road speeds but it's ready when the surface turns to rural dairy farmland gravel roads or rails-to-trails packed limestone. If the trip is going to be <12 mph on more technical terrain, then I have a rigid flatbar 29"+ bike with 3" wide rubber to handle that.
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I'm going to work on a proprietary formula (lol) that takes into account % time split between paved, gravel roads, singletrack; 'chunk or condition' rating of each of these surfaces; plus some factor including rider skill, whether coming from a road or mtb background, and desired level of comfort (wuss to crazy). That's version one. Follow-up version will take into account road/trail surfaces in a circumference around where you live/ride.
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I'm going to work on a proprietary formula (lol) that takes into account % time split between paved, gravel roads, singletrack; 'chunk or condition' rating of each of these surfaces; plus some factor including rider skill, whether coming from a road or mtb background, and desired level of comfort (wuss to crazy). That's version one. Follow-up version will take into account road/trail surfaces in a circumference around where you live/ride.
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Re: a formula for tire width I would say the surface quality is #1. They have gravel rating systems out there already, I think there is a 1-4 and a 1-5 system in terms of smooth to chunky/rooty. Google coughed up this 1-5 system for example.
Also speed is an issue.. I like to take gravel at near-road speeds, the thrill is what makes it fun. But some riders don't have that goal.
And, including the other elements you mention would be helpful.
I am personally only on grade 1/2 gravel on that system I linked, and my current tires are 700x35c on 25mm ID rims with 37.2mm actual width .. they are totally awesome for that level of gravel and my speed/comfort goals.
Also speed is an issue.. I like to take gravel at near-road speeds, the thrill is what makes it fun. But some riders don't have that goal.
And, including the other elements you mention would be helpful.
I am personally only on grade 1/2 gravel on that system I linked, and my current tires are 700x35c on 25mm ID rims with 37.2mm actual width .. they are totally awesome for that level of gravel and my speed/comfort goals.
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The width of tyre directly depends on the size of the gravel, rider weight, compaction of the soil, soil type and rider experience. The fast guys at the Hico 150 rode 28s and 32s and averaged +20 mph, 135 gravel/hard-pack and 15 paved, wow. I rode 35s. Interesting discussion.
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Thats interesting to hear, I was trying to guess tire sizes from watching the videos of that race on Youtube (great videos BTW! - search for gravel locos to pull 'em up). Dylan Johnson in his video said he was on 44s, I was personally wondering if he could have topped his #4 finish if he had something a bit smaller.
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Thats interesting to hear, I was trying to guess tire sizes from watching the videos of that race on Youtube (great videos BTW! - search for gravel locos to pull 'em up). Dylan Johnson in his video said he was on 44s, I was personally wondering if he could have topped his #4 finish if he had something a bit smaller.
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The width of tyre directly depends on the size of the gravel, rider weight, compaction of the soil, soil type and rider experience. The fast guys at the Hico 150 rode 28s and 32s and averaged +20 mph, 135 gravel/hard-pack and 15 paved, wow. I rode 35s. Interesting discussion.
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50mm min (on 650b). Sometimes I get caught up in some singletrack or other rough stuff.