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Originally Posted by Hiro11
(Post 21926430)
My bike has an 11sp Campy Super Record drivetrain with TRP Spyre SLC calipers. Works great.
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Originally Posted by joejack951
(Post 21927945)
Did you need to do anything special during setup? That is typically a very problematic pairing of components. I designed short pull arms to be able to use HY/RD calipers with my Campy levers on my own bike. With the stock arms, the brake levers hit the bars before max force could be applied. The Spyre calipers have a similarly long pull actuation arm but the design is such that a shorter pull arm isn't easily swapped in.
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Originally Posted by joejack951
(Post 21927945)
Did you need to do anything special during setup? That is typically a very problematic pairing of components. I designed short pull arms to be able to use HY/RD calipers with my Campy levers on my own bike. With the stock arms, the brake levers hit the bars before max force could be applied. The Spyre calipers have a similarly long pull actuation arm but the design is such that a shorter pull arm isn't easily swapped in.
TRP Spyke = Long Pull (mountain) TRP Spyre = Short Pull (road) |
Originally Posted by katsup
(Post 21928110)
Are you sure you don't have the TRP Spyke?
TRP Spyke = Long Pull (mountain) TRP Spyre = Short Pull (road) Apparently, the best overall solution is Paul Klampers if you are running Campy levers. Paul makes a version of their actuating lever specifically for Campagnolo. Maybe some day I'll splurge and get a set, but at $500 for a set of Klamper calipers... I'll stick with the Spyres for now. |
I have to say that I am surprised to hear the love for these brakes. I have TRP Spyre-C brakes on a Salsa Vaya and have been pretty underwhelmed by them.
Maybe its me but I had been hoping/expecting for both more power and modulation from disk brakes but did not want the added hassle of hydraulic. Suggestions for improvement (w/o going full replacement with hydraulic) that I am seeing in this thread are: 1. replace calipers w/ Yokozuna Ultimo, and 2. Try Deore XT rotor/Decathlon semi-metallic pads. Am I missing any?? |
Originally Posted by Hiro11
(Post 21928123)
No, he's right. The Spyre is designed to work with Shimano road levers, which have ~12mm longer lever pivot and a resulting longer cable pull than Campy road levers.
Originally Posted by force10
(Post 21928131)
Suggestions for improvement (w/o going full replacement with hydraulic) that I am seeing in this thread are: 1. replace calipers w/ Yokozuna Ultimo, and 2. Try Deore XT rotor/Decathlon semi-metallic pads. Am I missing any??
Compression less housing may help, but I've never used spyre as I jumped from BB7 to juin tech. |
I had my budget drop bar 29er built up with TRP Spyres that I had on my first cyclocross build. I've been using full hydros for over 2 years so I was concerned going back to mechanical. I FORGOT how good these brakes feel especially when paired with compression-less housing.
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Originally Posted by force10
(Post 21928131)
I have to say that I am surprised to hear the love for these brakes. I have TRP Spyre-C brakes on a Salsa Vaya and have been pretty underwhelmed by them.
Maybe its me but I had been hoping/expecting for both more power and modulation from disk brakes but did not want the added hassle of hydraulic. Suggestions for improvement (w/o going full replacement with hydraulic) that I am seeing in this thread are: 1. replace calipers w/ Yokozuna Ultimo, and 2. Try Deore XT rotor/Decathlon semi-metallic pads. Am I missing any?? |
I have a good exprerience with TRP Spyres and Sora 3503 3x9 levers. The only problem for me is some lack of stopping power during braking from the hoods. From the drops or from the tops (Tektro 721 cross levers) it is adequate. Here I have to admit being a heavy rider at 300#. Housing is compressionless Jagwire Road Pro, I can confirm that it makes a difference.
Originally Posted by chaadster
(Post 21920907)
dvdslw if you’re having a hard time rationalizing an upgrade, I can help: the Yokozuno Ultimo lets you keep your DA levers, but the four-pot calipers improve power and modulation, but also look way sicker than either Spyre or HY/RD!
Originally Posted by katsup
(Post 21928230)
Juin Tech makes 2 and 4 piston hybrid calipers as well. I believe they are the same calipers as Yokozuna, just with a different name.
Compression less housing may help, but I've never used spyre as I jumped from BB7 to juin tech.
Originally Posted by Hiro11
(Post 21933662)
Try compressionless housing. I use Jagwire KEB-SL on the bike I have with Spyres, it's pricey but it makes a big difference.
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Originally Posted by csport
(Post 21933754)
What do you think: is upgrading from Spyres or BB7s to a 4 piston caliper worth it? I have read that HY/RD is only marginally better than Spyre. In particular, do these 4-piston brakes give better stopping power? FWIW, the bike I have is QR, no thru axles. Yokozunas are $200+ for one caliper, not exactly cheap.
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Originally Posted by katsup
(Post 21933761)
I'm using Juin Tech R1 (2 piston) and paid $135 for the pair (pre covid) and both the bikes with the BB7 and with the Juin Tech are QR. I like the Juin Tech much more than the BB7 brakes. I am using normal cable housing and am much more confident in my braking. Compression less housing is due to go on once I unwrap the bars, but it may be awhile.
Yokozuna's price has some overhead for branding and it also includes their Reaction cable/compressionless housing. $450 for a pair of Ultimates comes close to the price of a hydraulic groupset... |
Upgraded Spyres to Juin Tech R1's a while ago. Totally worth it.
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I had Spyres on a first year Diverge and they were great. I have an '07 Cannondale F4 with BB5's and I actually love them. I like both of them more than the 105 hydraulics on my road bike. But on the other hand, the SLX hydraulics on my newest MTB are the best brakes I've ever owned.
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Anyone else ever get water in them and have to replace the bearings? I had a pair for awhile that got crunchy over time wet commuting and decided to replace them with HY/RDs then full hydraulic but apparently they can be rebuilt
https://singletrackworld.com/forum/t...rebuild-guide/ |
I have a good exprerience with TRP Spyres and Sora 3503 3x9 levers. The only problem for me is some lack of stopping power during braking from the hoods. From the drops or from the tops (Tektro 721 cross levers) it is adequate. Here I have to admit being a heavy rider at 300#. Housing is compressionless Jagwire Road Pro, I can confirm that it makes a difference. Reaction brake cable housing and they work great. |
Originally Posted by redlude97
(Post 22142731)
Anyone else ever get water in them and have to replace the bearings? I had a pair for awhile that got crunchy over time wet commuting and decided to replace them with HY/RDs then full hydraulic but apparently they can be rebuilt
https://singletrackworld.com/forum/t...rebuild-guide/ I wasn’t crazy about them before. |
Originally Posted by force10
(Post 22143455)
I don’t know why but mine got crunchy and then the lever came back to the bar during a ride. LBS said they couldn’t fix them but sent them back to TRP for replacement under warranty. Just got the bike back today actually.
I wasn’t crazy about them before. |
I have TRP Spyres on one bike currently--love them. I live in a very steep area, and I have no complaints. I had some BB7s too in the past and was perfectly happy w them as well.
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TRP does have a great warranty service, they sent me a new set of HYRDs when one of my pistons got seized |
Originally Posted by joejack951
(Post 21925617)
Do you ever have customers request SRAM or Campy drivetrains and HY/RD brakes?
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Inspecting my brakes today (TRP Spyres) I'm about due for new pads. What pads do you folks recommend? What's on there now is what came stock with them on the bike. Have lasted quite a while actually, and it's steep here.
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Originally Posted by force10
(Post 21928131)
I have to say that I am surprised to hear the love for these brakes. I have TRP Spyre-C brakes on a Salsa Vaya and have been pretty underwhelmed by them.
Maybe its me but I had been hoping/expecting for both more power and modulation from disk brakes but did not want the added hassle of hydraulic. Suggestions for improvement (w/o going full replacement with hydraulic) that I am seeing in this thread are: 1. replace calipers w/ Yokozuna Ultimo, and 2. Try Deore XT rotor/Decathlon semi-metallic pads. Am I missing any?? |
Originally Posted by pbass
(Post 22145991)
Inspecting my brakes today (TRP Spyres) I'm about due for new pads. What pads do you folks recommend? What's on there now is what came stock with them on the bike. Have lasted quite a while actually, and it's steep here.
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Originally Posted by csport
(Post 21935268)
Thanks! Looks like the price of R1's is the same now, dual piston GT is twice more expensive. Looks like I should also try R1 as people say that BB7 has a slightly better stopping power than TRP Spyre (and Spyre has a better modulation), and R1 is more powerful than BB7.
Yokozuna's price has some overhead for branding and it also includes their Reaction cable/compressionless housing. $450 for a pair of Ultimates comes close to the price of a hydraulic groupset... |
Originally Posted by dwmckee
(Post 22150830)
Who is saying that the BB7 has better stopping power than the Spyre brakes? I think you have this backwards...
Anyway, I can confirm that Juin Tech R1 is much stronger than TRP Spyres. After the upgrade I have the stopping power from the hoods I had been missing before. I am not saying that Spyres or BB7s are bad, for me some advantages of Juin Tech R1 are:
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