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Stems - Adjustable vs Fixed (Need higher rise)

Old 01-17-22, 05:53 PM
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Stems - Adjustable vs Fixed (Need higher rise)

Almost got the fit on new gravel bike dialed in and last issue to resolve is that the bar drop is too low and with a 6 degree stem (rise), sitting just below the top of the carbon steerer tube, Iíve realized I need more rise as I canít go higher. I wish the manufacturer / shop would have left it uncut, as I only have 20 mm of spacers.

Ritchey has both adjustable and fixed stems. Unless I can calculate how much degree rise I need, Iím wondering if the adjustable is the way to go. Any experience with these? I would need one around 110-120mm (110 stem currently gives the right reach, not sure how more Ďriseí affects this).

I want the bars up about 2-3cm.
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Old 01-17-22, 06:14 PM
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You don't want a goofy adjustable stem. Something like the Surly Truckstop bar will give you 30mm w/o looking too weird. https://surlybikes.com/parts/truck_stop_bar Specialized has something similar with less rise and less $.

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a great tool to calc what stem you'd need/like to create the difference
The Habanero Stem Chart
and you won;t have to deal with an adjustable - adjustable is nice as a temporary install to get a 'feel', but you won;t get the 'reach' without calc-ing the length & rise/angle diff.
hence the chart...
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Adjustable stems are horrible; they loosen and squeak and really never work out well long term. Ritchey Ergommax handlebars have a 20 - 25MM rise (like the Surly) from the stem height and it will not look as goofy as a 30 degree 'hybrid-type' stem.
This is a great stem calculation tool we use at our shop for comparing stem angles and lengths: Stem Comparison Tool | yojimg.net
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Thanks for the tips re handlebars. Didnít think of that
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Originally Posted by Noonievut View Post
Unless I can calculate how much degree rise I need, I’m wondering if the adjustable is the way to go. Any experience with these? I would need one around 110-120mm (110 stem currently gives the right reach, not sure how more ‘rise’ affects this).
For a given length stem, a higher rise results in a slightly shorter reach. This stem comparison tool can be helpful, but most riders eventually accumulate a drawer full of trial-and-error stems anyway.

You might want to ask at your local shop if they have any "lenders" you can try out; there's really no substitute for a few long test rides to determine what works best.
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Originally Posted by dwmckee View Post
Adjustable stems are horrible; they loosen . . . .
I always wondered about these - have one bike I'm always messing with - different bars, stems. But I ride lots of rough stuff and I don't think I could ever trust one of those.
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Originally Posted by pbass View Post
I always wondered about these - have one bike I'm always messing with - different bars, stems. But I ride lots of rough stuff and I don't think I could ever trust one of those.
They are best left to hybrid riding on rail trails...That is not a bad thing, you just need to use parts for what they are designed for. Adjustable stems often do not hold up for longer miles and where you have more weight and stresses on the bars.
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