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jpearl 08-09-05 08:26 AM

Off-road terrain in a 'cross race
 
Not that I've raced 'cross (yet?), but as I entertain the idea more and more, I have a few questions I'd like to ask people who have already raced cross.

What is the terrain makeup of the off-road sections of a 'cross race generally like? Looking at pics from the big European races, they always seem to be on grass and smooth dirt/mud paths through farm fields. I've seen pics from American races that show that too, and in addition, more challenging terrain like sand, gravel, etc...

What is the most extreme terrain you've experienced at a 'cross race? In training and general 'cross riding, what is the most extreme (i.e. rocky singletrack) you've riden? What wheel setups (rims, tyres, & tyre psi for example) have held up and which have not. When does off-road terrain stop being CX territory and become MTB ground?

Thanks,
jpearl

islenska 08-09-05 01:05 PM

in general most of the off-roading in a cross race will be as you say, on grass, dirt/mud paths. however, in some smaller, local races you may very well encounter "jungle cross" terrain, which could range from singletrack, mtb-type trails to rocky run ups, log barriers, roots, rocks, etc. but, at least in my experience, even then the terrain isn't TOO crazy. that is, i've never encountered big rock gardens or super gnarly stuff on a cross course.

as for sand, that also depends on the course. many courses will have a short section that is made up of very loose beach-type sand. personally, i have never seen really loose gravel on cross a race course. how you get thru the sand is a matter of preference. some ppl will ride it, and some ppl will run it, even if its totally flat. it really depends on your momentum and whether or not you feel comfortable pedaling and steering your way thru it. i tend to run the sandy sections because i think i'm faster on my feet going thru it than trying to spin my way thru it (and getting really tired in the process).

as for wheels and tire pressure, this, like in every other discipline of cycling, can be as scientific (or as simple) as you want it to be. most of the pros will run tubulars because they are lighter than clinchers and you can run much lower tire pressures with them without the risk of getting a flat. its nice to be able to run low pressure on a cross course because this will give you much more traction on the all of the varied terrain. its just the opposite from a road race, where your tires might be super hard. in cross, its the perfect low pressure that racers are looking for. having said that, every course is different and, depending on the weather, etc., you will have to adjust accordingly. this is a good reason why its always a good idea to pre-ride the course a few times b4 the race -- get a feel for the terrain and adjust your pressure to suit it.

as for training, i never practice for cross on "extreme" terrain. most of the training i do is on the road, or on a grassy/dirt circuit. however, taking your cross bike on mtb trails is a good idea because it will teach you good handling skills, and its FUN. i do this more as a "break" from training as opposed to something i do on a regular basis.

the most important thing with regard to cross racing is your engine. you have to be able to hammer at a very high intensity the entire time...so interval training is also a big part of my training regimen.

dlbcx 08-09-05 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by jpearl
Not that I've raced 'cross (yet?), but as I entertain the idea more and more, I have a few questions I'd like to ask people who have already raced cross.

What is the terrain makeup of the off-road sections of a 'cross race generally like? Looking at pics from the big European races, they always seem to be on grass and smooth dirt/mud paths through farm fields. I've seen pics from American races that show that too, and in addition, more challenging terrain like sand, gravel, etc...

What is the most extreme terrain you've experienced at a 'cross race? In training and general 'cross riding, what is the most extreme (i.e. rocky singletrack) you've riden? What wheel setups (rims, tyres, & tyre psi for example) have held up and which have not. When does off-road terrain stop being CX territory and become MTB ground?

Thanks,
jpearl

The most extreme was sawdust that been rained on for a few days. Try running up that stuff! Or, racing on a landfill...definitely need to get a tetanus shot, before racing on this course!
In Nor Cal, we used to have a lot of jungle cross courses but it has been geared to follow the Euro courses, which was described in the previous post.
We don't get very muddy courses but you can check out photos from last year's US Nat's to get an idea of what muddy is.

jfmckenna 08-09-05 02:58 PM

islenska ---- Well said.

I am thinking of using tubulars this year so I can get away with really low pressures for some of the courses I do. Every Wednesday during the season we have mock races where we actually make a course with barriers, run ups, ect... It's a great training tool. Last year I started doing single speed mountain bike training rides as well over rough terraine and I think it helped me with bike handling as well as interval work out. It can't hurt to put some running into the training program as well.


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