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Old 06-04-07, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Podolak
Given that the Surly Cross-Check is steel and a CX bike it might be your best option. If you are doing long loaded touring though the chain stay length may be an issue depending on your shoe size. Keep that in mind. .
im thinking about getting a CC, and dong dome touring- im new to the world of road bikes in general- can you (or anyone) tell me about the relationship of chain stay length and shoe size? i wear a 13 EEEEE!
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You need a minimum of 42 so, on a typical cross bike it should not be a problem since all these bikes are 42.5 cm+ on the chainstay length. Still, I think its better to choose a bike with longer CS's since the ride is generally better and it allows easier fitting of paniers should you decide to fit these.

I wear size 48 Sidi shoes (roughly size 13EE) and, my road bike CS is 42. I don't have a problem now but, I sure would not want anything shorter.
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Originally Posted by felixtannenbaum
dong dome touring
What is dong dome touring?

I'm close to buying a Cross Check. That's my vote.

Shoe size relation to panniers and chain stays is heel strike. Longer stays will put the pannier further behind your heel making it less likely your heel will strike the pannier on the upstroke.

Touring frames also seem to be more stable under load because of the longer wheel base. Mack truck vs. Porshe debate.
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I don't have 13EEEEE feet (if you must know, 9D), but never had any heel strike touring with my TriX.
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Originally Posted by archermd
my riding has not even begun
it will be mild for sure in the beginning and not much touring ag all
i have looked at and considered touring frames since there are more steel frame options that way

i really was about to order a specialized tricross comp until others suggested the sport version or that i give it up and go for a steel framed bike

that was the beginning of the current wave of confusion

so, do i jsut get the spec tricross, sport or comp, or should i try for a steel bike**********

Get a Karate Monkey (Surly). It's has some hip factor, it's versatile, it's indestructible and most of all, it's stable, more stable than a road or cyclocross bike. Better yet, run it with an 8 speed shimano hub to keep it as simple as gears can be. When you get good enough to pass people on carbon bikes you'll love it. Until then, you can blame the "weight" of your bike for your slowness.
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