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How many people here ever take their cross bike on a "real" mountain bike trail?

Old 02-23-09, 09:00 PM
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And this isn't even a cross bike, it's just a fixed gear road bike with reasonable tire clearance



The mud did cause me all kinds of pain though. I'm still clearing it out of my brakes
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boy howdy, that trail looks about as hairy as every other photo in this thread. egads! the horror!!
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I don't think the Fullerton Loop in Fullerton, CA is considered a real "mountain" trail, but it's ridden by lots of peeps on mountain bikes.

Oh, and me on my Poprad (I'm sure there are other CX riders on the trail, too.)



(Sorry for the low quality pic, but I don't bring my camera with me when I ride; just my iPhone.)
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Originally Posted by kergin
what's the word on carbon fiber cross forks for trail riding? will it break like soviet russia?
Both of my cross bikes have carbon forks. One was used as a commuter for 3 years on the crappy streets of Atlanta (potholes, RR tracks, broken pavement, curbs, etc.) and I've had no problems.
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Originally Posted by isotopesope
boy howdy, that trail looks about as hairy as every other photo in this thread. egads! the horror!!
Give me a break, there isn't a 10 foot change in elevation within 100 miles of me. I've forgotten what it feels like to climb! Damn this flat region!
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Originally Posted by fuzz2050
Give me a break, there isn't a 10 foot change in elevation within 100 miles of me. I've forgotten what it feels like to climb! Damn this flat region!
ha! sorry man. i'm definitely spoiled in that i have hundreds of miles of awesome single track that is a bike's ride away from my front door. most of which is easily a 2,000 to 3,000 ft. gain in elevation, and often times much, much more.

there is one 50? mile "loop" i like to do on my mountain bike, where i start at 6100 ft (my house) and don't start the true descent until over 12,000 ft. sweet!
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Originally Posted by isotopesope
ha! sorry man. i'm definitely spoiled in that i have hundreds of miles of awesome single track that is a bike's ride away from my front door. most of which is easily a 2,000 to 3,000 ft. gain in elevation, and often times much, much more.

there is one 50? mile "loop" i like to do on my mountain bike, where i start at 6100 ft (my house) and don't start the true descent until over 12,000 ft. sweet!
No worries, It's the price I pay for living in Davis, the most bicycling friendly town in America. Ironic isn't it?
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Well, just back from a 2-day 120km off road adventure, probably 30% singletrack, 60% firetrail, on my tricross sport fitted with knobby tyres. It was awesome. Some pretty technical stuff, like water races where the track is about a foot wide with sharp drops on either side. And lots of very rocky descents. Here are some observations.

* I was with 3 other guys, all on hardtails. One was about the same ability as me, one better, one worse. I kept up with the guy of the same ability on everything except long very rough descents - skill matters much more than suspension.
* By the last 10kms of the last day, my hands were starting to hurt and I was taking it easy. The vibrations eventually catch up with you. And I was the only one wearing gloves.
* I think in some very technical sections, on either flat or slight uphill, my lighter bike with thinner tyres was actually better suited. I seemed to get through some sections that the others didn't.
* On smooth singletrack twisting through dense bush, it was absolutely magic. You know what I'm talking about
* Going uphill on soft surfaces, the hoods seem to give you a slight advantage by moving your weight forward a bit.
* Had no problems clearing fallen logs - probably did better than the mtb guys. On this track, people have put rocks either side of bigger logs to help you get over them, but the smaller ones (eg 6") you just hop at full speed.



For the curious: Ballarat to Castlemaine via Creswick and Daylesford, along the Great Dividing Trail, western Victoria, Australia.
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I am not a racer, nor ever intend to be - so the only riding I do on my CX bike(s) is on trails. I love it, because I also love to do a 70%-30% on/off road loop.

I have 3 MTB's that just hang in the garage.
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This is something of a recurring decision for me.
I've been on trails, rock gardens, streams etc, that taking my CX would be a good way to need a new pair of wheels. In fact, my gears haven't been quite the same since doing a frozen cornfield with several inches of snow this past January.
But if the trail is around 20 miles or so away, taking my CX will mean I ride the to the trail head. Taking my MTB will mean I take the car.
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I take my cross bike on nasty dirt trails whenever I get the chance, and down stairs, too. I find I ride the brakes a lot going down, take big drops very slowly, and get off and walk the thing a bit ... but I have fun doing it.

I did a half century ride on Saturday, and the best part was finding a great cyclocross track in a state park about 20 miles from my house. As soon as I saw it, I could tell it was for bikes - it was made to be very difficult but not insurmountable. Actually it looked like it was either deliberately not for bikes, or a dare to us ... and with all the other cyclists I ran into, I knew I was in the right spot. But eventually I had to get back on the road and continue home.

I've got skinny road tires, though, so I'm sure it's a riot watching me take my CCX bike out on the these trails.
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I don't have anything to prove by ruinng my cx bike. I got my new Surly CC for multi-path, multi-use and have no intention of bashing it to pieces on a mtb trail. I have a Stumpee for that.
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Originally Posted by Dion
I am not a racer, nor ever intend to be...
Admittedly, I don't know anything about you, but I really think you ought to reconsider this. When I bought my CX bike, I didn't intend to race either. Then a year later, I read a comment on a blog from someone saying, "I guess it's time to bust out the tutu and mud goggles and give this thing a shot." That made me question my preconceived notions about what kind of sport CX racing is, and two years later I'm glad I did. It's so much fun it ought to be illegal.
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I do. But I prefer using my mountain bike for it.
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Haven't posted my "new" bike in this thread yet. Yes, I'm a lefty.
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i've ridden w/the framebuilder and other folks and can report that these folks are definitely tearing up the local singletrack in the santa cruz redwoods on cx bikes. seriously faster than most weekend warriors on their full suspension mtb's w/all the plastic gear, maybe even faster than some more dedicated mtbers too. i'm actually waiting for a custom hunter cx frame that's almost done!

@ onetwentyeight your bike looks nice, who built it? i was up in sf last week and my buddy and i hit up mt tam from the city, via marin headlands, wanted to make it up to west point inn but it got too dark. i was riding an '89 rb-1 w/25c tires, wish i had my cx bike now. tomorrow we're cruisin up for opening day @ at&t....go GIANTS!!!

really though, check out this dude's site, if you look around you'll see vintage pics of tom ritchey slaying all the sc mountains coast range redwood singletrack on skinny tires (look under rides & slides)
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
Admittedly, I don't know anything about you, but I really think you ought to reconsider this. When I bought my CX bike, I didn't intend to race either. Then a year later, I read a comment on a blog from someone saying, "I guess it's time to bust out the tutu and mud goggles and give this thing a shot." That made me question my preconceived notions about what kind of sport CX racing is, and two years later I'm glad I did. It's so much fun it ought to be illegal.
That's cool. I watch my brother race and I have been tempted - I'm kinda the local trail blazer around here (I ride these trails 5-7 days per week). My brother has been racing cx for nearly 20 years.

The problem with me is I used to be competetive in a number of sports, and my racing experience is in motorcycles. As much fun I had, I just can't dedicate myself to be competetive. I'm trying to run two small businesses, and local 1.5 hour jaunts is all I can really commit to.

I have mucho respect for those who choose to race - but I'm such a fred schmoe on the trails, racing isn't my cup of tea. But, eh... you never know. If I choose oatmeal over bacon and eggs in the morning maybe I'll give it a go.
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Yeah, put fatter tires on (30mm+) and you're good to go. I do technical MTB trails all the time on mine. Your biggest problem is going to be big rocks and big drops, but otherwise you should be fine. Helps to have straight bars too.
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Originally Posted by nativeson

i've ridden w/the framebuilder and other folks and can report that these folks are definitely tearing up the local singletrack in the santa cruz redwoods on cx bikes. seriously faster than most weekend warriors on their full suspension mtb's w/all the plastic gear, maybe even faster than some more dedicated mtbers too. i'm actually waiting for a custom hunter cx frame that's almost done!

@ onetwentyeight your bike looks nice, who built it? i was up in sf last week and my buddy and i hit up mt tam from the city, via marin headlands, wanted to make it up to west point inn but it got too dark. i was riding an '89 rb-1 w/25c tires, wish i had my cx bike now. tomorrow we're cruisin up for opening day @ at&t....go GIANTS!!!

really though, check out this dude's site, if you look around you'll see vintage pics of tom ritchey slaying all the sc mountains coast range redwood singletrack on skinny tires (look under rides & slides)
https://siliconvalleycyclist.com/index.htm
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I've taken my stock 2008 Fuji Cross Comp out on the trails in the Mt Laguna and Cuyamaca State Park area quite a bit. Mostly singletrack, I just won't do the gnarly downhill stuff. In July, I'll be taking it to Mammoth Mountain. It is fun. I know it has limitations, and I respect those limits. I'd rather not damage myself and the bike if I can avoid it.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
I take my cross down stairs, too.
I've got skinny road tires, though, so I'm sure it's a riot watching me take my CCX bike out on the these trails.
wow Stairs. Didn't realize a CX bike could do that.
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Originally Posted by NYCJohn170
wow Stairs. Didn't realize a CX bike could do that.
Watch out X-Games!
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Originally Posted by NYCJohn170
wow Stairs. Didn't realize a CX bike could do that.
A 23c carbon fiber road bike could probably do it, though I'm not sure thats recommended.

For whatever its worth, I tried, and failed, to ride the following trail on a drop bar CX bike with 32c tires (Shingletown Gap, in case anyone's familiar):

The picture doesn't really capture it, but a lot of those rocks were 4-8 inches across and protruded several inches out of the ground.
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I took my cx bike out for an hour the other day on the local mtb trails -- it was a ton of fun, you just have to be on your game to avoid hitting stuff.
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