Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Cyclocross and Gravelbiking (Recreational)
Reload this Page >

How many people here ever take their cross bike on a "real" mountain bike trail?

Notices
Cyclocross and Gravelbiking (Recreational) This has to be the most physically intense sport ever invented. It's high speed bicycle racing on a short off road course or riding the off pavement rides on gravel like : "Unbound Gravel". We also have a dedicated Racing forum for the Cyclocross Hard Core Racers.

How many people here ever take their cross bike on a "real" mountain bike trail?

Old 01-26-09, 08:27 AM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
bryroth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 860
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
How many people here ever take their cross bike on a "real" mountain bike trail?

I'm pretty proud of my little cross bike that I built up on an '05 Kona Jake frame. I was a mountain biker, but moved to road biking. Road bikes seemed too fragile to me, so I compromised. I still take my mtb out from time to time.

Last time I went out was with my brother, on a fairly technical trail. We both went over the handlebars a few times. I kept telling him that I could take my cross bike down that trail if I wanted, and he called me out. We go for it this weekend.

Am I going to die?
bryroth is offline  
Old 01-26-09, 08:39 AM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,119
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
If you have to ask, then yes, you will die. Sorry.
flargle is offline  
Old 01-26-09, 08:41 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
bryroth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 860
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
And what will become of my bike?
bryroth is offline  
Old 01-26-09, 08:43 AM
  #4  
Tiocfidh r L
 
jfmckenna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: The edge of b#
Posts: 5,476

Bikes: A whole bunch-a bikes.

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 463 Post(s)
Liked 123 Times in 76 Posts
I went for a mountain bike ride with a group of about 8 of us last week. One of the guys was on his IF cross bike. I could not believe what he was capable of doing. He's a strong cat 2 roadie so that helps and he ran a lot of the rock gardens but still we hardly ever had to wait for him except on the really long technical descents. I've done it a few times before and it's just not fun, doable yes fun no.
jfmckenna is offline  
Old 01-26-09, 08:45 AM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 96
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
cross bikes on mtb trails add a good challenge, ive done it a few times, but i pinch flatted while i was ripping down the trail and nailed a rock with the back tire...you have to be more mindful of the skinny tires.

the craziest thing i ever saw was a shop tech who decided to join the mtb group ride on his specialized tarmac....then proceded to clear a section that i didnt.

i just about sold my bike right there
axcxnj is offline  
Old 01-26-09, 09:43 AM
  #6  
antisocialite
 
dirtyphotons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,385
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
yes, you will most certainly die. probably not this weekend though.

it all depends on the trail. as mentioned, rock gardens can suck. in terms of getting from point a to point b, it's no problem. but you might have to hike a bit.
dirtyphotons is offline  
Old 01-26-09, 09:49 AM
  #7  
All Bikes All The Time
 
Sawtooth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 2,343

Bikes: Giant TCR 0, Lemond Zurich, Giant NRS 1, Jamis Explorer Beater/Commuter, Peugeot converted single speed

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by jfmckenna
I've done it a few times before and it's just not fun, doable yes fun no.
Disagree with above. I take my cx bike out on the "real" mountain bike rides with buddies all the time and love it. The only downside is a noteably slower descent (and that is largely because I refuse to run regular cx tires because I am so committed to faster road speeds. Because Boise has lots of steep climbing, I mounted a 9 speed 11-32 cassette on the rear and a 38 up front. This works pretty darn well for most of the climbing and causes me to stand and grunt only on the very steepest sections.

I LOVE to ride my Major Jake on the real mountain bike trails. The bike is not only capable of offroad, it seems to be hungry for it. I can't believe how well it handles the climbs. Again, the only place it suffers is downhill.

Last edited by Sawtooth; 01-26-09 at 12:21 PM.
Sawtooth is offline  
Old 01-26-09, 10:51 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 135

Bikes: Surly,ANT,Rawland,Fuji,Jamis,Kona

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I used to ride my 2000 Jake the Snake all the time on mtb trails, but now it mostly sees commuter duty. The Kona works a lot better than my 2000 Surly CC on actual mtb trails. The Surly makes a lot nicer commuter. They both have their strengths.
nopinkbikes is offline  
Old 01-26-09, 11:54 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 626
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
All the time. There are definite benefits. I can ride 7-15 road miles from my house to the trail and make much better time than on my hardtail, and leave the car at home. The bike is light, and easy to throw around in the twisties. It climbs like a monkey. I find it enjoyable to pick the lines, almost like solving a puzzle. It is more of a scalpel than a hammer.

There are downsides also. No bombing down rocky descents and letting the suspension eat the hits, which some people really like. Careful with those drops, Eugene. The more forward position can be a little unnerving on descents- you've really got to get your weight back. The bottom bracket is low for a trail bike, so you have to watch where you pedal.
justinb is offline  
Old 01-26-09, 12:01 PM
  #10  
Justin
 
scattered73's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Bayou City
Posts: 1,051

Bikes: Soma Double Cross, KHS Urban Uno

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Both my fantom cross and my double cross have hit the mtb trails many of times. Sometimes I have to walk some sections but couldn't say if it was the bikes fault usually it's me lacking some nerve.
scattered73 is offline  
Old 01-26-09, 05:37 PM
  #11  
Real Men Ride Ordinaries
 
fuzz2050's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,723
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
If I can ride an old touring bike with 28 slicks on 'real mountain bike trails' you can kick ass on a trail with a CX bike and the right tires
fuzz2050 is offline  
Old 01-26-09, 09:04 PM
  #12  
Eternal NooB
 
threeflys's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Sonoma County,CA
Posts: 939

Bikes: Calfee Tetra Pro, Lemond BA, Spec Roubaix, Riv Homer Hilson, Cielo

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I took my Las Cruces out on a trail the other day...it was good until I went down a "new" hill, I about shat myself! The rocks and decline weren't bad, it was the huge rain ruts that traversed the descent! I could see myself catching a wheel in a rut and going down. It help to have a bike light enough to hop over them. While the downhills are a bit slower, it's definitly worth it climbing!
__________________
If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team.


threeflys is offline  
Old 01-26-09, 09:55 PM
  #13  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Pasadena
Posts: 179
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
i take my fuji cross comp up the fire roads (JPL/brown mountain) near my house in pasadena several times per week. i love all the weird looks that I get when I blast past everyone (like double or triple the speed) on the 7mile climb up. the decent back down over some rocky section is a little hard on my neck and back but bottom line is that I am enjoying my cross bike more than my 29r
danahs is offline  
Old 01-27-09, 01:26 PM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 80
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I ride my SS Bianchi San Jose Frequently in the local trails near LaVerne, Claremont area. I can honestly say I say Ihave seen 3 CX'ers including myself on these MTB trails. I can pretty much handle most of the hard pack and woop sections, sand/gravel and the shallow stream crossings too ,yet the chunky, rutted, rocky sections I DO slow down for. Unlike a MTB I dont have the wider tire patch or front susp.(if any) as most MTB's do. I have tried tires from 700x30, 32, and 35 and have found that the 35's hold up well and cushion the terrain on my steel san jose. I will admit on flats and smooth decents as well as climbing I do blast by most of the MTB's. I like the fact I can leave my house on my bike with efficient speed to the trails, ride through the mtb sections and continue to ride the harmless fire roads and tour the hillsides, then make my way back home. I like mountain bikes, yet I always felt they were bulky, "heavy" slower bikes. I ride road also, so a CX bike seemed more apropriate for what I wanted to do.
steelcx is offline  
Old 01-27-09, 01:34 PM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 80
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I used to get a lot of crap like " oh that bike doesnt know what it wants to be, a road or a moutain bike , its confused..." Or " ....why would you want to ride that bike on dirt?" but I just went with what I liked. Remember, In a CX race course some of the technical sections that are too steep, rocky, muddy or barriers set up for that matter aren't rideable any way. Thats usually when a CX'er dismounts, runs or clears the section then remounts.
steelcx is offline  
Old 01-27-09, 02:18 PM
  #16  
Ride for Life
 
wearyourtruth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Houston
Posts: 2,740
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts


when i was in San Fran i decided to throw caution to the wind and follow a group down a fire trail on my SS pake with only a front brake and 23's *whew* a lot of fun, but i probably wouldn't do it again.
wearyourtruth is offline  
Old 01-29-09, 09:25 AM
  #17  
Run What 'Ya Brung
 
bonechilling's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,694
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
There's not much dramatically different between a rigid 29er mountain bike and a cyclocross bike. I don't have a mountain bike and I ride my CX bike off road all the time. It's definitely more "cross-country" riding than hardcore single-track, but I don't see why that's be any different.
bonechilling is offline  
Old 01-29-09, 10:12 AM
  #18  
I Love My Dream
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,075
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
I run out of nerve before my CX bike runs out of capability.
Saddle Up is offline  
Old 01-29-09, 10:24 AM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,119
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by bonechilling
There's not much dramatically different between a rigid 29er mountain bike and a cyclocross bike.
Fat tires allow you to bomb through stuff that you'd have to pick your way through with cross tires. My main home trail has a healthy mix of the rocky rooty stuff and more double-track gravelly stuff, and I've ridden it both with a "cross" bike and a 29er. Both are fun, but atmho a true fat tire bike allows you to flow through much more stuff.

I guess everyone has their priorities and aesthetics. I think it will be a long time before I go full suspension, but some people swear by it and say you're missing out by not bombing over boulders and such.
flargle is offline  
Old 01-29-09, 10:57 AM
  #20  
shoot up or shut up.
 
isotopesope's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: colorado springs, co
Posts: 1,961

Bikes: yes please.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by flargle
I think it will be a long time before I go full suspension, but some people swear by it and say you're missing out by not bombing over boulders and such.
of course, they're missing out on the climbs by lugging all that extra weight and losing pedaling energy to suspension bob. my foot is sort of in my mouth though, as i just recently switched my rigid fork for a suspension one. gasp!

occasionally i'll ride my cross bike on a few of the trails around here. it's sort of fun and challenging, though fat tires can just roll over stuff much faster. the cross bike is too slow on the down hills for me. sure you get to the trail faster, but who cares. for trails, i prefer my ss 29er. also, most of the "real" mountain bike trails around here are much too rough or loose for even fat cross tires.
isotopesope is offline  
Old 01-29-09, 11:19 AM
  #21  
Life is good
 
RonH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Not far from the Withlacoochee Trail. 🚴🏻
Posts: 18,209

Bikes: 2018 Lynskey Helix Pro

Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 522 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts
I ride my TCX and my *for sale* Nova on mtn bike trails. Some of those trails are kinda scary on a cx bike.


__________________
The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love. - Psalm 103:8

I am a cyclist. I am not the fastest or the fittest. But I will get to where I'm going with a smile on my face.
RonH is offline  
Old 01-29-09, 11:28 AM
  #22  
Hello.
 
crushkilldstroy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: West Seattle
Posts: 2,902
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
You took not one, but two non-drive side shots? You must be a lefty.

And I take my Cross Check on fire roads and rooty singletrack all the time. My old Miyata got kind of shaky if I took it too quickly, but the CC is like a freight train out there.
crushkilldstroy is offline  
Old 01-29-09, 11:36 PM
  #23  
Senior Member
 
adaminlc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Las Cruces, NM
Posts: 328

Bikes: 2007 Surly Cross Check, 199? Novara Alpine

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I ride circles (literally) around my brother on his dual-suspension mtb all the time on my CC. It drives him crazy. I have to take it easy in the real rocky sections, but I'm good other than that. He really gets irritated when I ride 20 miles to the start of the trail, beat the tar out of him, then ride home while he drives to and from. He's shoping for a road bike.
adaminlc is offline  
Old 01-30-09, 07:07 AM
  #24  
Senior Member
 
sfcrossrider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 2,760

Bikes: Steelman eurocross, Surly CrossCheck, IRO Rob Roy...

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I haven't owned a mountain bike in almost 10 years, and I love mountain biking.
sfcrossrider is offline  
Old 01-30-09, 07:12 AM
  #25  
Senior Member
 
sfcrossrider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 2,760

Bikes: Steelman eurocross, Surly CrossCheck, IRO Rob Roy...

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by scattered73
Both my fantom cross and my double cross have hit the mtb trails many of times. Sometimes I have to walk some sections but couldn't say if it was the bikes fault usually it's me lacking some nerve.
Whenever I'm in your neck of the woods I ride my friends pimp Rob Roy at the ant hills, and Memorial. I went to UH.
sfcrossrider is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.