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Fuji Cross Comp vs. Motobecane Phantom Pro

Old 05-07-10, 09:05 PM
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The new FSA SL-K Cyclocross brakes looks pretty good and their price is right at ~$80/set.
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You beat me to it. Seeing as I'm more into older/vintage rides I prefer cantilevers. Though, I'm really thinking hard about a set of Campy Veloce Mini-V brakes on a project.
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I know the Oryx gets lukewarm reviews, but I'll be Craigslisting them once I replace them with the $10/set Tektro mini V's. I have Tektro linears and aero levers on my Franken-road-bike, and they are more than adequate.
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I tried to use mini-Vs with regular road levers, and I could never get them to work well. It seemed I only got about a micrometer of movement at the pad from lever pull. I happily went back to my Oryx cantis.
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Originally Posted by Toddorado
I rode it in to work tonight for the first time, and it is as smooth as butter on hot waffles. It is all stock so as to evaluate the order in which I will be replacing components. I am not a racer and bought this more for roads than anything. Did not commit to a road bike because I do like to go off-road whenever possible.

Sorry to hijack and make this a review thread, but here goes.

            I didn't need another bike, but for $580 after Team Performance points and a 10% discount, I had to do it just for the components alone. If you can still find one somewhere, it is well worth the money.
            I just bought the same bike at the end of April. Had been researching for a good intro to road biking. I love this Fuji Cross! And you're right, we got a crazy deal! I also used the 10% off the $799, plus 20% in points. I walked into my store and the 1 and only Fuji Cross was my size. Now, I'm looking to get a road bike for my wife. Wish I would've bought her a Fuji before the end of April for the double points as well.
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            Originally Posted by djlarroc
            I just bought the same bike at the end of April. Had been researching for a good intro to road biking. I love this Fuji Cross! And you're right, we got a crazy deal! I also used the 10% off the $799, plus 20% in points. I walked into my store and the 1 and only Fuji Cross was my size. Now, I'm looking to get a road bike for my wife. Wish I would've bought her a Fuji before the end of April for the double points as well.
            Look at the GT bikes they have on sale this month - double points. Don't do it just for that, be sure she is comfortable, but with the range of GT bikes they sell, you should not have a problem finding one.
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            I owned a Crosscomp which I picked up in '08 from a LBS for $425, black and silver. These Fujis are subject to a tremendous discount when a LBS needs to clear the floor - you can bargain. I was about 230lb at the time, rode a few centuries on it, nice bike - felt fast to me. My son permanently borrowed it, he's ridden it just about daily, night rides, races with is buds, good weather and bad/wet weather, and it's had zero problems. After about two years, bike still looks new; we did a coastal ride and I did the maintenance on his bike afterwards - like new. So, I can't give you a compare to the BD but the Fuji is a good solid bike anyway you look at it = assuming you like the ride and it's the proper fit.
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            Originally Posted by djlarroc
            I just bought the same bike at the end of April. Had been researching for a good intro to road biking. I love this Fuji Cross! And you're right, we got a crazy deal! I also used the 10% off the $799, plus 20% in points. I walked into my store and the 1 and only Fuji Cross was my size. Now, I'm looking to get a road bike for my wife. Wish I would've bought her a Fuji before the end of April for the double points as well.
            We just bought a new bike for my girlfriend 3 months after I got my Fuji Cross Comp. The Cross Comp is my first bike in almost 15 years and my first road bike. We ended up buying a 2009 Fuji CCR4. It is a carbon bike but with Sora/Tiagra mix. They were clearing it out for $999 and we got double points. The reason we went with the CCR was because it has a good carbon frame to upgrade later on. She loves the ride but hates the triple so we are going to replace the entire group when SRAM Apex comes out. I figure we could get a full group for around $500-550 if we shop around so when it's all said and done she will have a very nice carbon bike that cost us $1500 but worth quite a bit more. Plus Fuji's have lifetime warranties on their frames so we think she will have a good bike for a long time.

            People around here tend to knock on Fuji but they really offer one of the best values in bikes.
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            Originally Posted by Toddorado
            Look at the GT bikes they have on sale this month - double points. Don't do it just for that, be sure she is comfortable, but with the range of GT bikes they sell, you should not have a problem finding one.
            I noticed that today. I think we are going to go take a look. I really like Fuji, but we'll see what we can find in GT. Anyone know how often certain brands go on double points? I'm also looking at the Scattante W300 for her. We can wait if it will go on double points soon.

            Originally Posted by gus6464
            We just bought a new bike for my girlfriend 3 months after I got my Fuji Cross Comp. The Cross Comp is my first bike in almost 15 years and my first road bike. We ended up buying a 2009 Fuji CCR4. It is a carbon bike but with Sora/Tiagra mix. They were clearing it out for $999 and we got double points. The reason we went with the CCR was because it has a good carbon frame to upgrade later on. She loves the ride but hates the triple so we are going to replace the entire group when SRAM Apex comes out. I figure we could get a full group for around $500-550 if we shop around so when it's all said and done she will have a very nice carbon bike that cost us $1500 but worth quite a bit more. Plus Fuji's have lifetime warranties on their frames so we think she will have a good bike for a long time.

            People around here tend to knock on Fuji but they really offer one of the best values in bikes.
            Agreed!

            I found this thread before I bought my Fuji. Also had me considering the Phantom. I got a better deal on the Fuji of course, but ultimately was leaning that way because if I ever decided to sell, It would have a better resale value.
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            Also GT is part of the same company that now owns Cannondale. GT, Schwinn, Mongoose, and Cannondale are now part of what's called the Cannondale Sports Group. I bet that the new GT carbon frames are coming out of the same factory as all the Cannondale carbon frames. Take a look at this pretty screaming deal they have at performance right now.

            https://www.performancebike.com/bikes...numHome=400339
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            Old 05-13-10, 02:01 AM
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            Originally Posted by djlarroc
            I just bought the same bike at the end of April. Had been researching for a good intro to road biking. I love this Fuji Cross! And you're right, we got a crazy deal! I also used the 10% off the $799, plus 20% in points. I walked into my store and the 1 and only Fuji Cross was my size. Now, I'm looking to get a road bike for my wife. Wish I would've bought her a Fuji before the end of April for the double points as well.
            To stay with the theme to this thread, why not still consider a cross bike? GT makes one, sold at Performance, but you can also check out and compare to the BD cross offerings. Quite frankly, by the time you get your points back, you can get a Motobecane Fantom CX for less, taking into consideration of course if she knows her size, if this is her first drop bar bike, and other factors.
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            Originally Posted by Toddorado
            To stay with the theme to this thread, why not still consider a cross bike? GT makes one, sold at Performance, but you can also check out and compare to the BD cross offerings. Quite frankly, by the time you get your points back, you can get a Motobecane Fantom CX for less, taking into consideration of course if she knows her size, if this is her first drop bar bike, and other factors.
            I'll take a look there too. A cross bike would be good, I just figured it may be more expensive than a road (We were looking at the Fuji Newest 3.0)? I know my cross was cheaper than similar roads I was looking at only because it was a special deal.

            We do know her size and it will be her first drop bar bike. She's been tagging along on a HT MTB, but I think if she was more comfortable and had a more efficient bike, she would ride more often than now. I'm not sure really how often she will want to ride, so I'm looking to spend under/around $500 on her bike. Still think I can find her a cross?

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            Originally Posted by djlarroc
            I'll take a look there too. A cross bike would be good, I just figured it may be more expensive than a road (We were looking at the Fuji Newest 3.0)? I know my cross was cheaper than similar roads I was looking at only because it was a special deal.

            We do know her size and it will be her first drop bar bike. She's been tagging along on a HT MTB, but I think if she was more comfortable and had a more efficient bike, she would ride more often than now. I'm not sure really how often she will want to ride, so I'm looking to spend under/around $500 on her bike. Still think I can find her a cross?
            Since this will be her first road bike I would not buy online. Even though she already has a bike, since it's an MTB the size you think she needs might be totally different on the road bike because of the different geometries. As far as find a cross bike for $500 it is going to be extremely hard. PB carries a Diamondback road bike now with Sora components for around that price range.
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            Originally Posted by gus6464
            Since this will be her first road bike I would not buy online. Even though she already has a bike, since it's an MTB the size you think she needs might be totally different on the road bike because of the different geometries. As far as find a cross bike for $500 it is going to be extremely hard. PB carries a Diamondback road bike now with Sora components for around that price range.
            We are going to go to PB tomorrow to see that DB. For the same reason a cross bike will be hard to find, we may end up getting her a regular roadie.
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            I'm having the same debate about the Motobecane Fantom vs. Fuji Cross Comp. Performance has the Fuji on sale for $850, and its got carbon fork and 105 components (pretty similar to the Fantom Cross for $700 it seems). Plus Performance has the double rebate this weekend (20%) which puts them just about even.
            I was initially going for the lower end Fantom CX ($500) but I may just get the Fuji, with all the advantages of a local purchase.
            I am going to be setting this up as a commuter.
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            $150 will buy you a fair amount of attention from a bike mechanic - and don't BD have a 30 day return period? I'd ask the store if they'd match the return period, knock off $50, and throw in any customizations you might want for the cost of the price difference in components only. Stuff like swapping the regular bars for compacts or Bell Laps, putting a forked mounted canti hanger on, fitting Kool Stop Salmon brakepads and the stem of your choice. Better tyres maybe. Then see what they offer in return, and make your decision on how good a store they are. Oh - and Selle SMP saddles are really nice!

            Otherwise, get the Moto and spend the $150 getting the wheels tweaked to perfection and buy whichever of the above upgrades you like the look of. It's all very well to talk about supporting local bikestores - but only when they are worth supporting. Your decision should depend on how good this one is. And local independent bike mechanics deserve support too (if you have any!)
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