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Old 08-01-10, 06:13 PM
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road and cross bike or just a nice cross bike?

Im saving money for a bike. I can buy a road bike for a budget $1300 or sell my current cross bike and get a nicer one for a budget of $1500 but that means no road bike. I use my cross as both right now with no issues and I haven't found it worth it to have both. What do you think?
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Old 08-01-10, 06:17 PM
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Why mess with something that's working? What's wrong with your current bike that would make you want to buy a new one?
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Old 08-01-10, 06:35 PM
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its a 49cm. Im 5'7. I can put a huge seatpost and rediculous stem on it and get a okay road bike or get a cross bike that fits me. I do more road than cross stuff so thats why I was pondering.
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Old 08-01-10, 07:19 PM
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So you're using a bike that's too small as a cross and road bike?
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Old 08-01-10, 07:26 PM
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In that case, yes I'd ditch what you have and get something else. What depends on how your plan on riding your bike. Strictly street use? I'd opt for a road bike. Plan on riding trails/dirt roads, maybe a cross bike is the best solution. Regardless, get a bike that fits properly and it'll be much more comfortable and enjoyable.
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Old 08-01-10, 08:54 PM
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yeah. i do cross races but road races and road riding more often but a cross can do both just fine from what ive learned so far.
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Then it sounds like you need a cross bike that fits. I started out riding mountain bikes. I almost bought a road bike because I wanted something faster and lighter. Then I found out about cross bikes and decided to buy one.. I love it.. It does everything I want it to and way more fun than my heavy MTB. I say go for it!

Do you have any bikes in mind? If you know how to do your own wrenching, you can get a nice bike from Bikes Direct w/ the budget you have.
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get a cross bike that fits it'll be fine for road riding, and if you want to race you can put some thin tyres on it.
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Old 08-01-10, 10:02 PM
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2 is better than 1! get 2!!!

if you look for a deal, you will be able to get nice bikes for that much
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^ I think the two bike option meant keeping the current machine as a cross bike and picking up a supplimental road ride.

I'd vote for a nice cross bike, if you like to switch it up get a second set of wheels that's better suited to your road or cross racing needs. I love having the option to throw on 700x35s and going to a local singletrack, but do use my cross bike primarily as a road machine. The stability makes it great in the city or as a commuter, the strength lets you bomb MUPs or hop curbs the get where you're going.

I vote cross simply because its always fun no matter where you ride it as opposed to a road bike that isn't fun because you found a gravel trail that veered off into the woods.
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I'd also vote for a cross bike + a second set of wheels, but try to match the rim width so you don't have to re-adjust the brakes every time you switch wheels. If you can find a Performance Bike shop with a 2009 Fuji Cross Pro in your size, you'd have $300 left over to buy some Ultegra Open Pro wheels, which I believe have the same width as the Aksiums on the Fuji.

The biggest issue I see with the one bike solution is that a nice CX bike is going to have a 46- or 48-tooth big chainring, and you might not be happy with that for road racing. That's a much smaller problem than a bike that doesn't fit though.
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thanks guys. I was planning on buying from BD. When I get around to it, I'll go look around at my local shops and see what they can do but I've gotton 3 bikes from BD with no issues so why not a 4th? I was looking at the following https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/..._pro_rival.htm https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...cross_ti_x.htm (its overbudget so gotta save up a little more)
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/...nuItemId=12187 (i like it but the moto version is $800)
https://www.fujibikes.com/Specialty/C.../CrossPro.aspx
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Old 08-02-10, 10:44 AM
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tricross sport owner, got it over other cyclocross options for
-triple crank 50-40-30
-wide range cassette 11-32
-three water bottle spots, brackets for racks, fenders, front fort rack bracket also.
-wheelbase/chainstay length very well suited to what I am happy with for steering quickness (it is rather stable, ie slow compared to others, more like a touring bike, which is fine for me) and bike pannier/heel clearance is not an issue.

I use it on the road, have 28 tires on it. For me this was a good compromise of a tough frame, wheelset that would be good for some touring, commuting as it is made for cyclocross roughhousing, and it makes for a fun "sort of road bike" Gearing may be too wide for you if you would prefer a closer spaced cassette, double crank bike (the tricross comp has this, mine is a Sport-Canadian version with a deore LX rear derailleur to handle the 11-32)

other cyclocross bikes have quicker geometry, double cranks, 105 mounted etc which may be more what you are looking for. As I put panniers on my bike, I was basically looking for a "sport touring" sort of bike (but with a triple crank and wide range cassette for hilly stuff I bike on often) , and a cyclocross bike seemed to me as a great option, and while I dont race at all, its nice to be able to slap some diff tires on it if a lot of gravel road stuff was in the cards.
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yeah. specialized is awsome but so effin expensive compared to bikes direct. I use panniers too so need something with a rack mount but the fron is unneeded for me. I was looking for atleast 105 and somewhat light. I don't really care about triple or double but have no experience with a wide range cassette so i may try to test ride a tricross sport.
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Get a cross bike that fits, and a second pair of wheels and stem for road riding. Get the same width rims and hubs so you dont have to fiddle with brakes and gearshift when you swap wheels. You can have lighter rims on the road wheels. The road stem can give you longer reach and lower bar. Use a locking brake hanger to set the headset bearing preload, so you dont mess the headset when you change stems.
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A couple of the bikes you listed have 20-spoke wheels. I don't think I'd try CX racing with those.
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I have a 90ish TIG steel pinarello Cross frame/fork its a 57x57, which is a good size for me a non racer .
Recently got a pair of supple, light 33 wide tires for It
after riding a practical Allterrainasaurus WTB tire , the new 'jack Brown tires are slick, easy rolling, the WTB ones were a deeper patterned treads and significantly more rolling resistance
Another of their tires, Panasonic's Passela is also a decent rolling tire , a bit slower with the Kevlar tread band.
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whats wrong with 20 spokes? too many?
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I have been pining for a nice new road bike, but the truth is my Fuji Cross Comp serves the need I bought it for. Spending a little time off road made the CX bike the one. If you're only looking to go from $1,300 to $1,500 on your budget, keep the cross and save a little longer. You'll miss the crosser.
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Originally Posted by mtb_man_14 View Post
whats wrong with 20 spokes? too many?
Too few. CX wheels get hit in a lot of different directions. Higher spoke count keeps them true. The less you weigh the fewer spokes you can get by with, but 20 is just plain crazy if you ask me.
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I know a guy that's 190lbs and rides on carbon wheels with 18 front, 20 back. After each race I ask him if they've exploded yet. So far so good. I know I wouldn't try that.
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Im 250lbs. and my Tricross suits me just fine. Where I am I ride a lot of partially paved trails (blacktop and loose pea gravel/sand/dirt) and farm roads. I have yet to find issues with this bike on the road or off. I have been thinking that I want to buy a new road bike as well, then I think I just need to make a few upgrades to the current ride. I havn't had any issues with the Roval 20 spoke wheels that everyone seems to complain about, but would like to upgrade them eventually. Beyond that I can average 15 to 20 mph on the pavement and 12 to 15 on the soft stuff. I would say to get rid of the bike that doesn't fit and get a good cross bike.
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you can fit comfortable riding 32 tires in a Cross frame , road frames unless specifically made, will only take 23 tires.
and untill you get a wheel sponsor, use a normal 32 spoke wheel..

FWIW in a season or 2 there will be some bling cable disc stuff now that UCI has opened the rule book to allow them .
the engineers will want to make new lighter stuff for the Pros to show off and test, then the rabble will get to pay for it.
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Originally Posted by Andy_K View Post
Too few. CX wheels get hit in a lot of different directions. Higher spoke count keeps them true. The less you weigh the fewer spokes you can get by with, but 20 is just plain crazy if you ask me.
We may know each other from the Cross Crudade...

I run a set of the cheapo Performance brand wheels. 16 and 20 spokes. Did the whole series on them, plus commuting, jumping curbs, etc. No problem.

The freehubs seems to be disposable, but the wheels are still straight.

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