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Challenge Limus, Michelin Mudd2, Clement PDX - Any negative reviews?

Old 08-31-12, 09:56 PM
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Challenge Limus, Michelin Mudd2, Clement PDX - Any negative reviews?

I've really only read good things about these three tires. I'll be running it as a front tire most of the time, and a rear when needed. Does anybody have any complaints about these 3?
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I'm assuming you are refering clinchers?

I have PDX's. Traction is awesome and they roll nicely. My ONLY complaint...and its very minor, is that they run WIDE. The 33s run wider than my old Vittoria 34s - this is a slight problem for me because i have to deflate the tires to get them thru the brake pads (fork/pad clearance) when installing/removing the wheel. This slows me down if I have to pit during a race.
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Despite the name, the Mud 2 is more of an all-rounder, while the other two are true mud tires. So it depends on what you're looking for.

The Challenge clinchers are great but do not work tubeless.
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Originally Posted by simonaway427
I'm assuming you are refering clinchers?

I have PDX's. Traction is awesome and they roll nicely. My ONLY complaint...and its very minor, is that they run WIDE. The 33s run wider than my old Vittoria 34s - this is a slight problem for me because i have to deflate the tires to get them thru the brake pads (fork/pad clearance) when installing/removing the wheel. This slows me down if I have to pit during a race.
Also a problem if they're jigging tires at your races, because the PDX runs outside of the latest UCI specs.
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Mud 2s are the most popular clinchers here in Seattle by a large margin. I ran them all last season and just picked up another pair. They're inexpensive, supple, robust, and work well in a variety of conditions from greasy grass to boggy mud. My only complaint is the profile on a wider rim. On 23mm rims the side knobs don't sit quite far enough down the shoulder of the tire which means they break loose a little early if you really push them in some situations.

My teammate is running PDX clinchers and loves them. They do run big. Of course the Mud 2 is also bigger than its claimed 30mm.

I think the Limus is kind of overkill for all but the sloppiest conditions. The tread is extremely chunky. Also, they are expensive, and the Challenge tread is glued on, which means it can separate. Finally, gum sidewalls can get nasty. If I stick with this cross thing I think I'd eventually like a set of the tubulars for really nasty days, but not as a general purpose tire.
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Originally Posted by flargle
Despite the name, the Mud 2 is more of an all-rounder, while the other two are true mud tires. So it depends on what you're looking for.

The Challenge clinchers are great but do not work tubeless.
Good to know, because I'm planning to race Mud 2's on Sunday and it's going to be bone dry.
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Mud 2s are very good all-around tires.

Knowing your tires is really the important thing.
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I've been using Mud2's for the last three years. Last year I picked up some Racing Ralphs to try for the early, dry races, but they really weren't any better than the Mud2's even on dry courses and they packed on a lot of mud in a hurry when it was around.

After three years my Mud2's are a bit on their way to becoming a file tread, so I just got some PDX's for when the rain comes. Everyone I've talked to here loves them.
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