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Best Cyclocross State/city?

Best state/city for cyclocross in terms of racer participation, fans/specatators, events, ect. ?
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My guess PDX..
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CX Magazine did an article on this last year. They looked at number of racers, growth, etc.

Of course, everyone thinks their own area is best, right? Those of us in Oregon are right though.

A bit of evidence: http://obra.org/schedule/2012/cyclocross#September
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I'm a die hard West coast guy but for cross the best races/scenes are in the East. When I mean scene I'm talking actual racing not 1500 beginners showing up to play in the mud. I'd be stoked to tow the line at Gloucester just once.
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I'm a die hard West coast guy but for cross the best races/scenes are in the North East which can actually qualify as a single "state" as the actual states are the size of west coast cities. When I mean scene I'm talking actual racing not 1500 beginners showing up to play in the mud. I'd be stoked to tow the line at Gloucester just once.
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What's wrong with 1500 beginners showing up to play in the mud?
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What's wrong with 1500 beginners showing up to play in the mud?
Nothing wrong per se but it doesn't necessarily translate to compelling racing.

I went to a race in Providence on a work trip, and the New England scene has it dialed. Great course, great racers, with a few Euros sprinkled in for good measure, and overall a very cool but hardcore atmosphere.

My perception is that Cross Crusade has become such an utter zoo that many people in the area prefer to compete in the smaller local races.
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Oh look we're arguing east coast vs west coast CX. Must be September.
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Originally Posted by flargle View Post
My perception is that Cross Crusade has become such an utter zoo that many people in the area prefer to compete in the smaller local races.
Smaller races...of which there are more than 30 this year to choose from.

Personally, I love the fact that Cross Crusade is such an utter zoo. It's fun. It's got character. With 1500-2000 people racing on a given Sunday, most of them aren't going to win, so it needs to be fun. Maybe that detracts from the experience for the handful of guys and gals who have a shot at winning, maybe it doesn't. I can tell you that 99.9% of the people out there are racing hard for whatever position they can reach, even if that's 186th place in the Master C race. And as for the fabled "tractor pull" aspect, we come by our mud naturally. What can you do?

Of course, it's all moot because even if I knew for sure that the CX racing was better on the east coast, I still live here. The best CX race, by far, is the one you participate in. Love the one you're with.
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Boulder, CO. You never know who might show up at a given race, plenty of international pros. Plus lots of weekend warriors who are helping grow the sport.
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My guess PDX..
PDX may have some fun venues, but Seattle's got dirtier dirtbags.

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If the east coast has such a good cross scene, how come the USGP never makes it out there instead of going to Wisco, or Boulder?

also any reason worlds is in Lousiville instead of somewhere where cross is bigger, like OR or the northeast?
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Originally Posted by biker16 View Post
If the east coast has such a good cross scene, how come the USGP never makes it out there instead of going to Wisco, or Boulder?

also any reason worlds is in Lousiville instead of somewhere where cross is bigger, like OR or the northeast?
the usgp had a race in nj for a bit... not sure why it left.
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PDX may have some fun venues, but Seattle's got dirtier dirtbags.
Maybe, but Portlanders look better in pink.



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Maybe, but Portlander's look better in pink.
Portland, please...

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Originally Posted by biker16 View Post
If the east coast has such a good cross scene, how come the USGP never makes it out there instead of going to Wisco, or Boulder?

also any reason worlds is in Lousiville instead of somewhere where cross is bigger, like OR or the northeast?
1. The east coast already has UCI racing.
2. Louisville made the bid.
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Portland, please...
Seattle method of crossing barriers...

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Seattle method of crossing barriers...
Hey, he's an innovater!
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So... it's over, right? Invocation of the Joey's OK is pretty much the PDX vs. SEA trump card, isn't it?

... or is this where I'm supposed to say "Dude, we even crash better than you guys!"
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I definitely think that one could be read either way. I mean, the whole Joey's OK thing -- complete with T-shirt -- is one of the coolest cross incidents ever, and I can only dream of crashing that spectacularly, to say nothing of having it caught on video. Plus it happened at Starcrossed, which I've got to say is kind of a big deal on its own.

I really thought I was going to have to break out the "biggest cyclocross race in the world" to settle this (and I think it does).

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I will be in Gloucester next weekend, it should be a great event.
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I can tell you which is the WORST city for cross racing..........Los Angeles. I have been to more than a few races that had about 8 riders for each category.

Everyone has an excuse for why they cant race. They dont like the rules. They dont like the promoter. Its too flat. Its too hilly.

Sandbagging is rampant.

A city of 12 million people and the best we can manage is 8-12 people per category on a beautiful fall day with temps of 70 degrees.

I would love to try out the Pacific Northwest scene, it looks so much more fun.
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A city of 12 million people and the best we can manage is 8-12 people per category on a beautiful fall day with temps of 70 degrees.
There's your problem. We've been getting that here so far this year, and let me tell you we're not happy about it.
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There's your problem. We've been getting that here so far this year, and let me tell you we're not happy about it.
stand by... Rainier is upon us. With all its muddy, off-camber hilly glory...
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Originally Posted by biker16 View Post
also any reason worlds is in Lousiville instead of somewhere where cross is bigger, like OR or the northeast?
Not sure on the particulars, but the city built a pretty sweet CX park and it's probably an attractive travel location. I'm looking forward to attending.
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