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Old 02-12-05, 08:52 PM
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I'm getting a Cross Check which I plan to use for everyday commuting on fixed gear and also lots of singlespeed offroad riding on singletrack and fireroads. The shop wants me to just give a list of all the parts I need to go with the frame and they'll build it up, add up all the costs, and slash some of the price for a whole bike purchase. I'm curious as to what wheels, stem, crank, etc. I should have them put on. Durabilty and cost/value are my biggest concerns. Also, I'm not sure between the green, black, or red color. I'm thinking of a front Avid mech. disc, which would mean I'd have to get a separate fork.
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Did you take a look at a pre-built Crosscheck that Surly sells? It's sounds a lot like what you are asking for sans disc.
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Originally Posted by lobo
Did you take a look at a pre-built Crosscheck that Surly sells? It's sounds a lot like what you are asking for sans disc.
Yeah, the one pre-built version has all sorts of gears according to the shop guy and the surly manual. Let me know if this is not true. Bulding it up singlespeed would give me some different options.
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i've got mine setup SS fixed free for much the same thing. mostly commuting, but the once in a while trip to the local trails.

crosscheck frame, some nice straight blade fork. i kept the canti brake action though. paul component canti brakes, pulled by some old ultegra levers. king headset. bling money, but will last foreva' most likely. for disc brakes, avid can't be beat if you do go that route. maybe see if the shop would swap the fork direct for a surly karate moneky fork - disc mounts, and would still keep the front end about the right height i think. surly makes a disc version of their hubs, too. good hubs, with decent sealed bearings. set them up right, show them some love once in a while, and they'll treat you right.

surly hubs, with mavic ma-3 hoops, 15-16 double butted spokes, allow nips. tioga bloodhound tires. a good allaround tire-long lasting on the pavement, but does pretty well in the dirt too. not a racing tire, but bombproof for trail/commuter duty. swapped the hub axles for some alloy QR axles, and am running bolt on skewers to help deter wheel theft.....

for fixed/SS use, use whatever for the drivetrail fits your budget and allows you to get the gearing you need. i've got a 38T front ring, and a 15T fixed cog, with a 20T freewheel. enough variation that i can spin fixed on the road, but the freewheel is low enough to let me hit some of the local trails. all in the same ride; nice! action-tec ti BB, wellgo ti spindle clipless pedals, race face lp cranks, alloy crank and ring bolts. surly cog and lockring out back, acs freewheel.

post/seat/stem? whatever is comfy and within your budget, and lets you get the right fit on the bike. i've got a USE ti alien post (bent it on my mtb, and with the bent part cut, this is the only bike of mine it'll fit) generic ti railed "junk saver" seat, titec ti stem (was a nice deal when titec was blowing them out cheap) and salsa cross drop bars.

seatpost bolt on mount rack, and some fenders i have setup to put off and on in less than five minutes for a day i want to hit the trails without that stuff on the bike.


on e big thing: E-bay can be your friend, if you aren't in a hurry. you can get some very nice stuff for much less than from the shop. if you know what you want, and don't mind some stuff used.
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Here's what I did. Individual results may vary. But you really can't go wrong with the basic CrossCheck.

I originally ordered it through WebCyclery of Bend, OR. They delivered it about 3/4 complete and I finished it. Many things have changed since. The original had drop bars and a Sram 7 speed internally geared hub in back. It is pictured with Mustache bars and a single speed drive train. I have since added a second chain ring up front along with a chain tensioner, front derailleur and friction shifter. But as is stands here’s about what it cost, er, about.

Surly CrossCheck - about $400

Winwood Carbon Cross Fork - about a $100 upgrade over the Surly steel fork that comes with the frame. I approached it with care at first, but now think nothing of dropping off curbs while commuting.

The wheels cost me about $300 from WebCyclery. They’re Mavic MA3’s, a surly hub in front, a Novatec single speed freewheel in the rear. You can surely buy cheaper machine built wheel sets, but these have endured a 1000 miles of commuting on crappy L.A. streets and are still true and straight as an arrow. Did I mention I’m 220 lbs? An experienced wheel builder with a good reputation makes a difference here.

Race Face Signature XS ISIS bottom bracket - $65. It’s a good bottom bracket and is supposed to be rebuildable. But I’m having trouble ordering the special tool and replacement bearings from Race Face dealers. I might try a less expensive ‘throw away’ BB.

FSA Carbon Cranks - about $270 at the time. These are totally over the top and even out of place on a bike like the CrossCheck. But then again they sure are pretty, light, and friggin’ stiff.

Spot 42 tooth single speed chain ring and bash ring - about $60 for the pair

Sram 8 speed chain - $15

I love Egg Beater pedals - $65

Cane Creek S2 head set - $25 or so

Salsa Chromoly stem - about $15 on ebay

I found the bars used at a local LBS, so I don’t know the maker. They’re MTB diameter, which is good because really cheap MTB levers fit right on. I paid $25 for both.

Oh yea, definitely go with V-brakes out of the gate. I tried Avid short canti's at first (old school cyclocross and all that) but soon switched to linear pulls. In my experience, the cheapest V's are better than any cantilever... better power, feel and a snap to set up. But that just me.

So what’s that, like $1300 without a seat? Damn that’s TOO MUCH! But like I said you can save about $300 by staying with Surly’s fork and buying a reasonable set of cranks. You can also save a bundle buying some things on Ebay. That’s what I do now that I’ve learned to do most of my own wrenching. If you decide to go the single speed or fixed gear route, riders on that forum can tell you a whole lot about putting together a low cost ride. Good luck.

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Don't forget racks, fenders, and saddlebags.

I use a Blackburn Mountain Rack, although there is one level up from that. The SKS fenders I put on are tough. The Jandd Hurrican saddlebags have worked well in horrible conditions. As long as you're getting a discount, also think about little things like a bell, lighting, a seat bag, and emergency repair tools to carry with you.
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