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Clement LAS vs Clement X'Plor USH vs Schwalbe Sammy Slick

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Clement LAS vs Clement X'Plor USH vs Schwalbe Sammy Slick

Looking for a light, high TPI, file tread cyclocross tire that will be fast on crushed limestone, pavement, and only occasionally have to deal with maybe some wet or slightly muddy sections of trail and light gravel roads.

The Clement LAS seem to do well as I have them on my current bike, but they don't have any type of flat protection and I've already dealt with one puncture since getting them last summer. They have 120 TPI and weigh about 350g.

I sort of like the X'Plor but they seem more commuter oriented than the LAS and are a lot heavier at 450g. I also like the Sammy Slicks especially with the flat protection but, like the X'Plor USH, they only come in 700x35 not 33 like the LAS. The Sammy's are 360g so similar in weight to the LAS but at a much lower TPI of 67. The X'Plor come either in 60 TPI or 120TPI.

I've also looked at Vittoria's Cross XN Pros at 150TPI, 700x31 and 350g but I'm not sure they have any flat protection either.

The tires would be a second set of tires for me mounted on much lighter rims that I'd use for the conditions listed above.

The set that came with my bike are more aggressive and can the handle mud and sand when I need them, but they are slow on hard pack and pavement. Those are the Schwalbe Super Swans 700x35 (same as Rocket Rons, I believe) They are pretty light at 305g.

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Panaracer Gravel king in the 700x32 size comes to mind. Approximately 315 grams and flat protection.


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Here is a list that includes slicks, semi-slicks and file tread tires;

Vittoria XN Pro: https://www.vittoria.com/tire/cross-xn-pro/
150tpi, file tread

Vittoria Voyager Hyper: https://www.vittoria.com/tire/voyager-hyper/
120tpi, high performance flat protection, Slick tread

Continental Cyclocross Speed: https://www.conti-online.com/www/bicy..._speed_en.html
180 tpi, flat protection, modified file tread

Panaracer Gravel King: https://www.panaracer.com/road.php
126tpi, flat protection, textured tread on smaller sizes, mini block on 700x32

Panaracer Pasela: Panaracer: Professional Bike Tires from Panasonic | Urban
66 TPI, touring tread with tan sidewalls

Kenda Happy Medium: https://www.kendatire.com/en/bicycle/...py-medium-pro/
120 TPI, diamond center section with knobby shoulder

Kenda Small Block 8: https://www.kendatire.com/en/bicycle/...ock-eight-pro/
120 TPI, small block tread

Clement LAS clincer: LAS Clincher | Clement Cycling, Cyclocross Tires, Adventure Tires, Mountain Bike Tires, Road Bike Tires
120 TPI, file tread

Clement MSO: https://clementcycling.com/xplor-mso
60 or 120tpi, micro block

Clement USH: https://clementcycling.com/ush
60 or 120tpi, dense blocks down the center, diamond textured shoulder

Challenge Almanzo: https://www.challengetech.it/products...almanzo-041/en
260 TPI, file tread

Challenge Strada Bianchi: https://www.challengetech.it/products...-bianca-037/en
260 TPI, textured tread

Challenge Paris-Roubaix: Paris-Roubaix
300 TPI, Slick tread, comes in a 700x27 (30mm wide actual size) for road bikes with limited clearance

Compass Stampede Pass: https://www.compasscycle.com/tires_comp_700_32.html
Unknown TPI, textured tread

Ritchey Speedmax Cross Comp Tire Review: Ritchey Speedmax Pro Cyclocross Clincher - Cyclocross Magazine - Cyclocross News, Races, Bikes, Photos, Videos
60 TPI, small block tread

Schwalbe CX Comp: CX Comp HS 369 | Schwalbe North America
Unknown TPI, flat protection. semi-slick tread, comes in a 700x30 size for sports bikes with limited clearance
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I looked at those and they seemed a little more geared towards gravel riding than I was looking for. My Schwalbe Super Swans can fill that need I'm guessing.
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Wow, thanks for the information. I've got some homework now. These all look promising.
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Originally Posted by Barrettscv
Here is a list that includes slicks, semi-slicks and file tread tires;

Vittoria Cross XN Pro: Cyclocross: Avion Axevo Team - Vittoria.com
150tpi, file tread

Vittoria Voyager Hyper: https://www.vittoria.com/product/touring/
120tpi, high performance flat protection, Slick tread

Panaracer Pasela: Panaracer: Professional Bike Tires from Panasonic | Urban
66 TPI, touring tread with tan sidewalls

Kenda Happy Medium: https://www.kendausa.com/en/home/bicy...py-medium.aspx
120 TPI, diamond center section with knobby shoulder

Kenda Small Block 8: https://www.kendausa.com/en/home/bicy...ock-eight.aspx
120 TPI, small block tread

Clement LAS clincer: LAS Clincher | Clement Cycling, Cyclocross Tires, Adventure Tires, Mountain Bike Tires, Road Bike Tires
120 TPI, file tread

Challenge Almanzo: Almanzo
260 TPI, file tread

Challenge Strada Bianchi: Strada Bianca
260 TPI, textured tread

Challenge Paris-Roubaix: Paris-Roubaix
300 TPI, Slick tread, comes in a 700x27 (29mm wide actual size) for road bikes with limited clearance

Compass Stampede Pass: Compass Bicycles: 700C Tires
Unknown TPI, textured tread

Ritchey Speedmax Cross Comp Tire Review: Ritchey Speedmax Pro Cyclocross Clincher - Cyclocross Magazine - Cyclocross News, Races, Bikes, Photos, Videos
60 TPI, small block tread

Schwalbe CX Comp: CX Comp HS 369 | Schwalbe North America
Unknown TPI, flat protection. semi-slick tread, comes in a 700x30 size for sports bikes with limited clearance
Out of all of those it's coming down to the Vittoria XN Pros (pluses: flat protection, high TPI) and the Clement LAS. Given they're identical in weight and the Clement's have a bit lower TPI and no flat protection, I think I'm really liking the Vittoria's.
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Another great, often inexpensive tire, are the Continental Cyclocross Speed or Speed Ride tires.

I've bought the Speed Ride online for as low as $30 a tire. They have a folding bead and the weight is around 420 grams in the 700x42 size (which measures 40 mm wide on a Velocity A23 rim). If the 700x42's won't fit your bike, the Cyclocross Speed version (nearly identical tread) comes in a 700x35 size (350 grams and 180 tpi). I'm guessing the 700x35 version would actually be around 31-33 mm wide, as most Conti's run smaller than advertised: Continental Bicycle -Cyclocross Speed

The tires flat out fly down hardpack gravel, and roll acceptably well on pavement. I rode them during yesterday's Gravel Grovel race, and they actually performed decent on muddy singletrack, although I had to walk in a few sections of really slick or deep mud. Definitely a good tire for mixed pavement/gravel/off-road riding. I pump them up to 85 psi for efficient pavement riding, and then deflate them to 50-65 psi on gravel.

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For pavement, I don't like file treads with knobs on the shoulders (like the LAS) because they tend to squirm around under hard cornering, i.e. at exactly the wrong time. That's where I think the USH is a winner of a tread, and I've been happy with the cornering.
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Originally Posted by flargle
For pavement, I don't like file treads with knobs on the shoulders (like the LAS) because they tend to squirm around under hard cornering, i.e. at exactly the wrong time. That's where I think the USH is a winner of a tread, and I've been happy with the cornering.
The USH seem a little heavy though at 445g a tire. It may be worth considering regardless. I have ridden the LAS's on my current TCX but nothing too aggressive on pavement so I haven't yet noticed any issue with cornering. Along those lines though perhaps the Bontrager CX0s could work for me. I happened to see those today online and they appear to be a good fast rolling tire that is lightweight and has some flat protection too.

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I've been running the Clement Xplor USH (120tpi) for a year, and they have been excellent tires. They weigh in at 350g per tire. I bought them for my CAADX for gravel, commuting, and general road riding. No problems, and they're pretty comfortable, too.
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I've been running the Clement Xplor USH (120tpi) for a year, and they have been excellent tires. They weigh in at 350g per tire. I bought them for my CAADX for gravel, commuting, and general road riding. No problems, and they're pretty comfortable, too.

If that's the correct weight then I think we have a winner. That would be the best balance for what my needs are. However, most of the reviews I've read says they're 430g-485g.

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Another tire I like, but I think they stopped making them are the Avocet Cross II with their inverted tread design.

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I may have been a little off - here's where I got my ush set. The 120tpi tires are lighter than 350g.

BTI | 650c/700c/27" Tires from Clement
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Originally Posted by Gus90
The USH seem a little heavy though at 445g a tire.
Where did you get this misinformation?
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FWIW Reviewed: Clement X?Plor USH all-conditions tire - VeloNews.com
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Originally Posted by flargle
Where did you get this misinformation?
From one of the linked reviews directly on Clement's own website (https://clementcycling.com/reviews):

Boston By Bike: Clement X'Plor USH tires - test ride

Then from several shops that have the tire listed for sale...

Clement X'Plor USH (120tpi) - Spokes Wheaton IL Naperville IL Pro Bike Fitting Custom Bike Builds

Clement X'Plor USH (120tpi) - Bicycles and gear for every type of riding - Giant, Lapierre, Santa Cruz, Diamondback, Raleigh, Felt, Fox & more

https://www.biketiresdirect.com/prod...adventure-tire

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Does Avocet even make tires anymore? I went on their website a couple days ago and it looks like it is from 2005. Its a shame because the Cross II is a great tire. I am rolling on them currently.
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Originally Posted by Gus90
I have no idea what accounts for the discrepancy in weights from various sources. And I didn't weight my USH before putting them on. All I can say is that they are not pigs and I love riding them on everything from pavement to singletrack.
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Tire weights can sometimes vary quite a bit. I weigh all the tires I review, and include that info in the articles. Most claimed weights are close to the actual weights, but occasionally you get something that's off by more than a few grams. As an FYI, many of the Panaracer-made tires I've tested/reviewed come in under the claimed weight.
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Originally Posted by flargle
I have no idea what accounts for the discrepancy in weights from various sources. And I didn't weight my USH before putting them on. All I can say is that they are not pigs and I love riding them on everything from pavement to singletrack.
I believe you, my local LBS has them so I'll probably go check them out.

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Tire weights can sometimes vary quite a bit. I weigh all the tires I review, and include that info in the articles. Most claimed weights are close to the actual weights, but occasionally you get something that's off by more than a few grams. As an FYI, many of the Panaracer-made tires I've tested/reviewed come in under the claimed weight.
May account for some of the discrepancy here regarding the USHs.
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Originally Posted by Barrettscv
Panaracer Gravel king in the 700x32 size comes to mind. Approximately 315 grams and flat protection.


Panaracer's new 32c Gravel King and 38c Comet cyclocross tires
I've been all over the map here on deciding on a fast tire good for pavement and crushed limestone type trails. Given the low weight, flat protection, pavement cornering and decent ratings for light gravel, this may just be the ones. Thanks again for the suggestion.
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Just to make your decision more difficult, I use slicks on the Des Plaines River Trail in suburban Chicago, as long as conditions are dry. Ill switch to the Kendra Happy Medium if conditions are damp.

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Just to make your decision more difficult, I use slicks on the Des Plaines River Trail in suburban Chicago, as long as conditions are dry. Ill switch to the Kendra Happy Medium if conditions are damp.

https://www.bikeforums.net/fifty-plus...l-grinder.html
I'm near you as well and plan on riding this rig mostly on the prairie path and connecting trails. I could probably go with the 700x28 gravel kings and be fine. I have 700x35 schwalbe super swans on the original rims it came with (Giant P-CXR1s). I bought a set of the full carbon rims (Giant P-CXR0s) to put a good fast rolling tire on and still be able to handle the path and transition well to paved portions along the Fox River. I'm guessing that should work.

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I know that everything you read on the internet is true, but I just had the opportunity to verify the weight of the Clement X'PLOR USH (120tpi) tires I've been riding on this year. Tonight I was switching out the rear tire on my CAADX so I could use it on the trainer this winter, so I thought I'd weigh it. Here's what I got: 12.2 oz which converts to 345g (including the rubber band for the weight weenies). But beyond their weight, I have found that they ride very nicely and seem to be holding up quite well. I did about 500 miles on these (gravel and road), and they look like they'll go a couple more years like that. Here's a couple pics of my measurements:




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