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Old 05-06-15, 01:46 PM
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best value tubular wheelset

I'm looking to move up to tubulars for racing this 'cross season. Any recommendations for a decent value wheelset? I'm not exactly looking to splurge, but no definite budget.

I'm in the Pacific NW, intend to use PDX tires, and the wheels need to be disc for a Ridley xfire. Will race on the tubulars only. I weigh around 170 lb.

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I got a set of PSIMET tubulars last year that I have been very happy with. They were very affordable in the alloy version; carbon wasn't too bad either for carbon tubulars. They are a bit wider so they hold a tire very nice but would be a pain if you are going back a forth to narrow wheels a lot without brake adjusters. I have A23 clinchers so the width is no big deal.
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Being Practical? buy old tubular wheels for the rims, build up, and replace old hubs with your newer cassette hub in them ,

given mounting and gluing tires takes hours, get several sets built up. so as to have another wheel to grab when your race starter wheel punctures.
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I got an estimate from wheelbuilder.com for a set of disc tubulars: Hed Belgium rims, DT Swiss 350 hubs, Sapim CX-Ray spokes (24/28). Less than $800, and only 2-3 ounces heavier than a set of Zipp 303s.
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A single wheel set and you just watch the race finish without you when you Flat .
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I've never paid more than $100 for a tubular wheelset. Most were free, and think I have about 20 or so sets are hanging up in my attic. Lost count.

Granted, most of these are made with freewheel hubs. But some feature older Shimano cassette hubs, for which the freehub can be replaced with an 8/9/10 speed compatible version for about $25.

Like the set I'm commuting on this morning. The rear hub was Shimano Uniglide 6-speed vintage. I replaced it with a 10-speed compatible freehub and a longer axle to fit modern 130mm stay spacing. Took about an hour to replace the hub guts and change out the freehub.

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I had a local shop quote me $500 for Major Toms/105 hubs and glued Challenge tires.
I've seen some low mileage HED Ardennes with tires on Ebay for about the same price.
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Originally Posted by msu2001la
I had a local shop quote me $500 for Major Toms/105 hubs and glued Challenge tires.
I've seen some low mileage HED Ardennes with tires on Ebay for about the same price.
Get anything but the Major Tom.
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Any particular reason why?
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Originally Posted by msu2001la
Any particular reason why?
Cause it's a turd.
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Originally Posted by grolby
Cause it's a turd.
More specific please.
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Two hours later and still no explanation. I have not had any issues with Major Toms nor am I aware of any who have. Psimet quoted me a price for a build that included them a couple years ago so I think it is fair to say that the drive by post [MENTION=23594]grolby[/MENTION] made can be ignored. I'd go farther and say that a budget tubular build should include Major Toms, plenty of bang for the buck with Velocity wheels IME.
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Feeling defensive about your component choices? It's a crappy rim, sorry. This forum doesn't update very often, so I'm sorry that it took me a day or so. The Major Tom is not nearly stiff enough, and it's also a soft aluminum that dents and bends way too easily. That is, it has basically the same problems that all of Velocity's light road rims have. I'll grant you that there isn't a lot of selection in the inexpensive alloy tubular rim market, especially of the wide rims best suited for CX tubulars, but the Major Tom is really bad. The premium for the HED Belgium tubular is absolutely worth it, it's actually a better value IMO. If the Major Tom works for you, that's cool, but it's not a good quality product. Blah blah blah, all my opinion and etc, but I can't think of anyone I know around here with experience with the Major Tom who was happy with it. This isn't a diss on you or anyone else, you can use crappy wheels and still be a good person, you know. You should see the wheels on my road bike right now. Complete garbage. I can live with that knowledge.
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[MENTION=23594]grolby[/MENTION] I take no offense. I've not heard anyone mention any of the issues you seem to have with Velocity before. I don't have those issues, my friends don't have those issues, t seems to not be a known issue outside of your circles or maybe I don't get out much. Maybe the conditions we race and train in out here in the Pacific Northwest are just kind to wheels? I have heard that Velocity did have a run for a while of less than stellar quality wheels but then I've heard that about Mavic as well.
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Well, I have to agree with [MENTION=23594]grolby[/MENTION] about the Velocitys being soft. That doesn't necessarily make them bad, especially since PNW courses don't tend to be rocky.
The HED Belgiums build up nicer, but they're pricy.
I raced the last 3 seasons on A23s tubeless. They were cheap, and they've held up pretty well.
As far as value goes, I'd guess the Belgiums would last longer, and probably ride better so that's the better value.

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I also have to say that Velocity rims are just......meh....in quality. I didn't have the Major Tom's but I had a wheelset made with their wide A23 clinchers and I wasn't all that happy with them. Had to true them frequently and there was a tiny hop at the seam since it is pinned and not welded.

I've been happy with kinlin rims and going the handbuilt route. I actually built my last wheelset myself. Kinlin TB25's, Novatec 20/24 hubs, a mix of DT Comp and DT Rev spokes. Raced them last season in the 3/4's and my friend put them through the wringer in a bunch of UCI races, too. Still are solid. Total cost was around $180 to $200 for parts, IIRC. Kinlin even has a 23mm wide tubular rim now, the TB20. You can find it on ebay.
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