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Is Belgian Tape the secret to no rolling tire?

Old 09-11-19, 12:29 PM
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Is Belgian Tape the secret to no rolling tire?

I always thought Belgian tape was to build up a rim shape so it matches the tire. More of a modern thing. Also that it was just one option among several.

I've just been using several layers of Mastik One. Letting them dry, then letting the last one stay tacky before mounting tire. Doing same on the tire.

Well, i really never get more than a year out of a glue job.

But I just heard that the Belgian tape GIVES YOU EXTRA YEARS of secure bonding. Is that right? I have some of the stuff. Just haven't used it.

I just rolled a challenge filetread and the whole darn rim seems dry. the thing just popped off. sheesh. glue is from last year or so. of course i did it with a strong hard downward offcamber corner where i got my weight forward and almost endo'ed and bounced on the wheel and the PSI was low at the time... bla bla ... but the bond seemed bad now that i'm looking at it. rats.
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yes. at some point layers and layers of mastik will not make a bond stronger, it will still sheer between the layers. Belgian tape in addition to building up the center has its own adhesive along with the backing, and it seems like the mastik soaks into the tape creating a better joint. With a normal tubular glued with just mastik, you only want it to be sticky enough so that it holds during corner say on the road and still be able to be removed by hand in case you need to do a roadside swap with a spare tubular. This simply wouldn't be possible with a tire glued with belgian tape. Generally to remove a CX tubular you have to cut it off, or use a flathead to get under the tape enough to get a wooden dowel or some other object to leverage the tire off. I've never seen anyone be able to remove a recently glued CX tubular by hand like you see with road tubulars glued with just mastik.
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Yup, there's a good video on youtube, just google Stu Thorne gluing tire.
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No, you don't need Belgian tape to avoid rolling a tubular.
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my subjectline was about rolling but my main interest is in GETTING MORE YEARS out of each glue job.

i understand that a well glued tire isn't gonna roll.

but i typically have issues at the start of each season w tires rolling even after i practice hard on them. grrr... so i'm mostly thinking of the tape in hopes of getting 2 or ... crazy to imagine THREE? ... seasons from one insane glue job.

well i've had the tape laying on my shop table for a couple weeks now ... does that count?
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Is gluing tires really so miserable that getting an extra year or two out of your glue has that much value? Cause the thing is, sure, you may be able to go longer between gluing tires. But you will pay for it when it comes time to remove that tire and prep for a new one. Unlike glue, you have to get all of the old tape off, and take it from me, itís a very unpleasant and time-consuming task.

And if you regularly have problems with rolling tires, you are doing something seriously wrong. The fix is improving your technique and attention to detail. A sloppy tape job is still bad even if it sticks better.
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