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Wildwood 06-03-21 08:38 AM

How easy is it to overhaul Campy Ergo shifters?
 
So my Campy 9 speed shifters still work ..... but the shifts have lost their mechanical feel. I can sense that a rebuild is in order in the near future.

Should I undertake this rebuild myself?
Are parts available?
How 'bout parts to convert right shifter to 10speed?

This is not a job for my closest bike shops - who is doing this repair at an affordable price?
Is there a BF'er offering this repair?

Thanks in advance.

Here is the bike wearing the 9 speed triple.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bebeceec2.jpeg

mtbikerjohn 06-03-21 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by Wildwood (Post 22086309)
So my Campy 9 speed shifters still work ..... but the shifts have lost their mechanical feel. I can sense that a rebuild is in order in the near future.

Should I undertake this rebuild myself?
Are parts available?
How 'bout parts to convert right shifter to 10speed?

This is not a job for my closest bike shops - who is doing this repair at an affordable price?
Is there a BF'er offering this repair?

Thanks in advance.

Here is the bike wearing the 9 speed triple.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bebeceec2.jpeg

Have you looked @ Branford Bikes? They are pretty much the go-to for Campy rebuilds. They sell individual parts,offer rebuilding service,or have factory ergo's that you would put your lever blades and hoods on. those are 10 & 11 speed only,tho,I believe. John

Wildwood 06-03-21 10:46 AM

@mtbikerjohn,
Have they changed management since moving to Seattle?
Used them - but only once.

Sy Reene 06-03-21 11:09 AM

Maybe the Bicycle Mechanics forum would have some insights?

Andy_K 06-03-21 07:01 PM

Do you have any experience as a watchmaker?

It's not quite that bad, but getting the last spring in the correct place can require a lot of patience. I did it once. That was enough for me.

If you're not hung up on the whole sustainability thing, a much easier solution for not much more money is to replace the entire shift assembly. You can get a 10-speed Record-level shift assembly for about $100. Then you just swap over your hood, clamp, and brake blade. I'm pretty sure you could handle it yourself, but if you don't want to I know a guy in Beaverton (me) who would do it for you the next time you're in the area. I hear @gugie is thinking about having another Ride, Wrench, and Grill this summer.

Wildwood 06-03-21 10:47 PM

@AndyK - :thumb::thumb:


Changing tubulars and clinchers = no prob. :)
I can adjust brakes (almost all) and friction shifters (usually) with skill. :p
Fenders can be tough, given a fender line and aesthetic requirement. :rolleyes:
Hubs and BB and pedals are important enough to get done well. ;)


Sounds like watchmaker is not in my skilz sets. :roflmao2:
Shifters are important enough to be done well.

Body swap sounds good. Certainly more predictable in results.
I should check sourcing options.

mtbikerjohn 06-04-21 04:14 AM


Originally Posted by Wildwood (Post 22086494)
@mtbikerjohn,
Have they changed management since moving to Seattle?
Used them - but only once.

Not sure about any management change,but I was able to get all the parts needed to rebuild my Chorus shifters from them recently. There are a couple of "official" Campagnolo videos on how to rebuild the levers. John

Dean51 06-04-21 08:35 AM

I've done a few ergo overhauls now. I prepped for the first one by watching a few of the You Tube videos that cover this subject. If you choose to take this on I'd recommend you proceed slowly and lay out the parts in the sequence you remove them. Be careful to not miss anything....some of the thin spacers (washers?) are easy to overlook when they are "stuck" to adjacent parts with grease. I documented several details, particularly the springs, with pictures so I had a reference for the reassembly. Installing the springs is the most challenging task, but relatively easy after you've done it once.

I overhauled an 8-Speed Ergo yesterday afternoon in preparation for moving it to another bike. I gave all the bits a thorough cleaning and fresh grease. I installed new g-springs while I had it apart.

Dean

Wildwood 06-04-21 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by Dean51 (Post 22087816)
I've done a few ergo overhauls now. I prepped for the first one by watching a few of the You Tube videos that cover this subject. If you choose to take this on I'd recommend you proceed slowly and lay out the parts in the sequence you remove them. Be careful to not miss anything....some of the thin spacers (washers?) are easy to overlook when they are "stuck" to adjacent parts with grease. I documented several details, particularly the springs, with pictures so I had a reference for the reassembly. Installing the springs is the most challenging task, but relatively easy after you've done it once.

I overhauled an 8-Speed Ergo yesterday afternoon in preparation for moving it to another bike. I gave all the bits a thorough cleaning and fresh grease. I installed new g-springs while I had it apart.Dean

Thanks, Dean -
Did you buy parts from Branford? or where?

Wildwood 06-04-21 10:52 AM

Thanks to all - excellent help.

Andy_K 06-04-21 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Wildwood (Post 22087437)
Body swap sounds good. Certainly more predictable in results.
I should check sourcing options.

Oof! Availability of the shifter assembly isn't what it was a couple of years ago. I might need to start hoarding these. Anyway, this is what you'd need: https://www.bikeinn.com/bike/campagn...ht/136661626/p

Dean51 06-04-21 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by Wildwood (Post 22088011)
Thanks, Dean -
Did you buy parts from Branford? or where?

Parts came from one of the UK suppliers....I believe it was Wiggle, but it has been a while now. I purchased some extra carriers and g-springs when I realized parts for the early....8 speed in my case.....models were getting hard to find. I was not aware of Branford at the time. Given their proximity to your location....and mine (Port Angeles)....I'd sure check with them.

FWIW, one of my attractions to the Ergo levers is they are relatively easy to overhaul/repair. My experience doing the same with Shimano "Brifters" is not so good.

Dean

Kimmo 06-07-21 05:59 PM

I've found you can give the G-springs a tweak to restore some life to them.

SJX426 06-15-21 05:12 AM

I have done second gen Ergos in 10 speed, twice. Branford was a great help with advice and parts. I don't know of anyone else that has as complete service/parts.
It really isn't than bad. I would not work on a time piece but the levers were not really a problem. I do have an 8V set with the pointy hoods that will take the same g spring as the second gen Ergo but I think they swap left and right sides. Info on Branford site.
The key is the proper indexing of the parts in assembly. Don't force anything. The other significant challenge is the installation of the spring. Again it is about positioning the parts in the right orientation while assembly.
The difference between many of the Ergo''s are the markings on the blade. Chorus and Record are the same with that exception. The differences between the different versions are documented on Branfords site.

I say go for it!

pdlamb 06-15-21 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by Kimmo (Post 22092353)
I've found you can give the G-springs a tweak to restore some life to them.

More details, please!

jadocs 06-15-21 08:26 AM

Check the official Campagnolo YouTube Channel. If I remember correctly they had a video doing repairs and such. Not sure if exactly what you are doing is there or not but worth a look.

Kimmo 06-16-21 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by pdlamb (Post 22102901)
More details, please!

The internet can tell you how to get the G springs out. As for tweaking them, you can see the part that bears on the indexing mechanism (the bit that's the difference between a C and a G) gets bent away from it, bend it back.

himespau 07-23-21 08:55 AM

How hard is it to remove/transfer the shifter blades if you do the whole assembly? I have a powershift set of ergos that I'd like to convert to ultrashift.

SJX426 07-26-21 10:01 AM

Rebuilding Ergo Levers — Branford Bike

bikemike73 10-17-21 06:36 AM

I recently became the owner of 8 speed Campy Ergo power shifters.

I did not see this forum had a separate category for these shifters so I posted in the mechanic section.

For me, my LEFT shifter would not return to the small chainring. After researching, was informed it probably was...are you ready...the return spring :)

I sent it out to Pat at Bradford on Friday. I will keep all posted on the results.

If I had come to this section first..........I would have taken up Andy Ks offer and sent it to him and paid him :)

SJX426 10-27-21 10:29 AM

I just converted my 10V 2nd gen right Ergo to 9v by buying a right Ergo that was broken with all the parts attached. The key is in the video above. I found the down shift toothed ring has a front and back, It needs to be oriented correctly. In addition, the sequence of moving the up shift is key to not having to fight the spring upon installation. The last key is the positioning of the part the spring is locked into. I mounted the Allen key used on front in a vice for mounting the assembly. Made the installation much easier.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d21e38e3_b.jpgP1050430 on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e7df5ed1_b.jpgP1050433 on Flickr

Left overs. Note the downshift lever ring is in backwards. If one of your bearings falls out, there is a thick washer that goes between them. You should be able to assemble and tighten the screw and still shift fine.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...8aaa0c96_b.jpgP1050434 on Flickr

bikemike73 11-05-21 02:59 PM

UPDATE

I received my " Brifter" back from Pat at Branford Bike in about 8 days.!!!!

Works perfect!!!

VERY REASONABLE in the repair price !!!!

Thank YOU Pat at Branford Bike.

I would HIGHLY recommend !! :)


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