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Old 06-27-17, 09:15 AM
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Wheels for high speed ebiking

Having upgraded to a BBSHD, my speeds have increased as well. I try to keep it under 30 mph, but I am concerned about the stresses put on both the tires and the wheels. (I'm just over 200lbs and the added 17ah 52v battery + Bafang motor add anothe 10 lbs at least).

I'm upgrading my tires to Schwalbe Big Ben Plus which are ebike rated for high speed. (ECE-R75 approved) But am thinking about building heavy duty wheels to go with this beast. Any recommendations for wheel builders or builds that would work on a heavy fast bike?
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Of course, some e-bikers use MC rims and tires on bike hubs (not for me). Mavic is coming out with Deemax wheels which are specifically for e-MTB.

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Old 06-28-17, 07:20 AM
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Did you mean Mavic? Didn't see a Deemax product except for them...
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I was snapping spokes on my first E-bike based on a low end KHS 200 MTB. When I built my Soma B-Side belt drive E-bike I made sure the spokes were good quality so I didn't have to mess with replacing spokes anymore. DT Swiss Alpine III are great strong flexible spokes that are recommended for use with heavy E-bikes. I went with those. No problems in the first 1,000 miles at all.

I'm convinced Schwalbe makes the best tires with regard to not getting flats. No flats at all in 2,000 with my Smart Sam Plus tires. I've just went to a Super Moto-X in front for the same reasons you are inquiring about; more speed. I find myself going faster and faster now that I am riding on the street and paved bike trails much more than I had originally planned. These tires are almost identical to the Big Ben's and have a wonderful ride and huge traction. Very confidence building.

Rims are something I don't know much about. I selected 27.5" Halo Vapour 26mm-OD/21mm-ID rims with eyelets for there apparent XC quality and huge color selection. They have worked out great so far, but are by no means "super special" in anyway that I am aware of.

I'm using Velocity Dually 29" 45mm-OD/39mm-ID for my current 29/29+ high speed cruiser build with Sturmey-Archer RX-RK5 5spd disc brake heavy duty IGH. Brakes will be Shimano XT M8000 trail (convinced these are the best brake feel out there - personal experience only) with 203mm rotors front and back to get me stopped safely.

Currently researching spoke size and type for lacing up the rear wheel and hoping some spokes will be the same size as my left over Apline III's...

Take a look at the DT Swiss site with regard to the Apline III spokes:

https://www.dtswiss.com/Components/Spokes/DT-alpine-III

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Thanks, looking at spokes/rims/hubs right now. Already ordered Big Ben Plus for my 26" wheels since they're speed rated. So I'm most likely have wheels built to 26".

Pretty much going to go with DT Swiss spokes, I'll take a look at the Alpines thanks for the suggestion. Rims I'm looking at some cheap 3D cut Alex rims with angled 36H. Hubs (shrugs), Shimano 36H Deore I guess. I can probably live with just a rear wheel build since that's taking the most stress from my motor.
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I'd look for 26" DH wheelsets since you'll probably find them somewhat cheaply, since 26" is going the way of the dodo in the mountain bike world. Or, if you're building your own, build up some 36 hole to DH, touring or tandem specs.
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Thanks, looking at spokes/rims/hubs right now. Already ordered Big Ben Plus for my 26" wheels since they're speed rated. So I'm most likely have wheels built to 26".

Pretty much going to go with DT Swiss spokes, I'll take a look at the Alpines thanks for the suggestion. Rims I'm looking at some cheap 3D cut Alex rims with angled 36H. Hubs (shrugs), Shimano 36H Deore I guess. I can probably live with just a rear wheel build since that's taking the most stress from my motor.
This is the 29+ wheel set I'm starting with:

Velocity Dually 29er Mountain Bike Wheelset Deore Hubs 6 Bolt [740709] - $203.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike

I was happy to see that great price with Shimano Deore hub and cassette laced up with DT Swiss 2 spokes for less then the retail price of the rims alone. Will be using the front as is and will put the SA RX-RK5 5spd disc IGH in the rear; saving the rear cassette and spokes together if I ever want to put them back.

I don't recall seeing any 26" wheels on their site, but you might have a look. Their prices on this set was an unbelievable great deal to me.
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Pricing out a build at Universal Cycles with Sun Ringle Rhyno lite XL 36h, Deore XT 756 36h hubs, DT Swiss 3 spokes... and they have 15% off over 300, so that comes to about 300 total after discount. Asking a few local builders price ranges w same parts from 350-400.

That site had some great deals on 26ers, but the ones I wanted were sold out.

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Ended up having two sets built from Universal after getting another 400+ quote. 26" and 20", both Rhyno Lite 36h, both XT 756 hubs, both Wheelsmith DB spokes (Alpine III were pricey, marked up, and Peter White's opinion about DT changed my mind to Wheelsmith)... also seems getting things in silver is a huge savings. Sets were $250 a piece, which I thought was a good deal even if parts were marked up a bit.

Anyone here use Universal, or have had wheelsets built? I found some old threads from around 2011 where people recommended them, hopefully their quality is still good.
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