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Old 04-03-18, 09:48 PM
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NYC on is on the path to legalizing ebikes,...

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There is only one barely functioning e-bike rental company left here in Shanghai.

Maintenance is a major issue, even if the charging requirements can be solved, the rest of the bike tends to fall apart rather quickly, compared to a traditional bike.
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From my understanding, throttle-equipped e-bikes fall under the same rules of registration and licensing in NY as mopeds. What is stopping people from registering their e-bikes and plating them just like a moped?
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People don't want to be forced to "license" an ebike. That adds quite a bit of cost, as insuring it would be required by law. Throttle ebikes would still be unable to be ridden, as the mayor wants pedalec only ebikes made legal.

Ebike rental is just part of the equation,...I just want to be able to ride an ebike without fear of having it confiscated, and not worrying about a loss of my driver's license. Getting into troble riding an ebike, currently, can totally screw up your driving record.
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Trust NYC will find a way to register and then tax Ebikes...wait wait no they would never ever do that.
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From my understanding, throttle-equipped e-bikes fall under the same rules of registration and licensing in NY as mopeds. What is stopping people from registering their e-bikes and plating them just like a moped?
Might fall under mandatory helmet laws and parking restriction/regulation/tickets?
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Might fall under mandatory helmet laws and parking restriction/regulation/tickets?
Nope,...it will be the same as any bike riding adult. Parking,...Nope,....parking restrictions,...Nope,...regulations,...Nope,...tickets,...Nope,..,.it will be the same as any other BICYCLE. It's a frigging BICYCLE, and is going to be governed accordingly.
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NY bike laws

I wonder what laws NY has on electric scooters or electric kick bikes??
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NYC's leadership was dead set against ebikes a few weeks ago. Then Uber spent a reported 100Million to buy an ebike sharing business, comes into town and asks, "frigging ebikes are illegal here?". The politicians sure can move fast when there's money involved.
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I wonder what laws NY has on electric scooters or electric kick bikes??
I had an electric scooter, and for the most part it's illegal. Police tend to look the other way, as long as you don't ride on sidewalks. I did get a warning, but that was about it.

And I do agree, the politicians see all the revenue generated by the ebike and electric scooter business in other states, and now they want a piece of the pie. I'm kool with that, as it benefits all of us in the end.
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Nope,...it will be the same as any bike riding adult. Parking,...Nope,....parking restrictions,...Nope,...regulations,...Nope,...tickets,...Nope,..,.it will be the same as any other BICYCLE. It's a frigging BICYCLE, and is going to be governed accordingly.
As long as it doesn't move unless you're pedaling it I have no objections to it be labeled as such.

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As long as it doesn't move unless you're peddling it I have no objections to it be labeled as such.
Pedelec,...self explanatory,... ;-)
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Pedalec,...self explanatory,... ;-)
Can I send you my research papers? Now would that be one "L" or two?

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Originally Posted by KraneXL View Post
Can I send you my research papers? Now would that be one "L" or two?
Are your papers NYC specific? And I'm still trying to get the "L" question,...even if autocorrect keeps correcting "pedelec" as "pedalec" for some annoying reason,...
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Ebikes are a good illustration of how regulation ruins everything. A couple of years ago, mopeds were unregulated in Russia. 13-14 year olds rode mopeds and nobody minded. Of course someone had to create a precedent and now you apparently need a license for a moped or a non-250W/25kph ebike.
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In NYC they presently confiscate the bike, then give you a ticket.
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It's comin':
Mayor de Blasio Announces New Framework to Clarify Legality of Pedal-Assist Bicycles | City of New York
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Explain. Why is this an issue for NY?
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Explain. Why is this an issue for NY?
Look it up,...
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Originally Posted by tds101 View Post
Nope,...it will be the same as any bike riding adult. Parking,...Nope,....parking restrictions,...Nope,...regulations,...Nope,...tickets,...Nope,..,.it will be the same as any other BICYCLE. It's a frigging BICYCLE, and is going to be governed accordingly.
Michigan's new e-bike legislation basically says that. It does identify the 3 classes of e-bikes, but the main operative language mostly reads "it's a bicycle": Michigan Legislature - Home/.../2017-2018/publicact/pdf/2017-PA-0139.pdf
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Michigan's new e-bike legislation basically says that. It does identify the 3 classes of e-bikes, but the main operative language mostly reads "it's a bicycle": Michigan Legislature - Home/.../2017-2018/publicact/pdf/2017-PA-0139.pdf
If NYC could only be so accommodating,...we get shafted by the mayor.
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Look it up,...
TS 101? Isn't that your job?
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Originally Posted by KraneXL View Post
TS 101? Isn't that your job?
No, it's your job. Especially since you got the nic incorrect,... Besides, shouldn't it be a part of your research for a documentary?
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Originally Posted by BiciMan View Post
Michigan's new e-bike legislation basically says that. It does identify the 3 classes of e-bikes, but the main operative language mostly reads "it's a bicycle": Michigan Legislature - Home/.../2017-2018/publicact/pdf/2017-PA-0139.pdf
www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2017-2018/publicact/pdf/2017-PA-0139.pdf

The device falls within 1 of the following categories:
  1. “class 1 electric bicycle” means an electric bicycle that is equipped with an electric motor that provides assistance only when the rider is pedaling and that disengages or ceases to function when the electric bicycle reaches a speed of 20 miles per hour.
  2. “class 2 electric bicycle” means an electric bicycle that is equipped with a motor that propels the electric bicycle to a speed of no more than 20 miles per hour, whether the rider is pedaling or not, and that disengages or ceases to function when the brakes are applied.
  3. “class 3 electric bicycle” means an electric bicycle that is equipped with a motor that provides assistance only when the rider is pedaling and that disengages or ceases to function when the electric bicycle reaches a speed of 28 miles per hour.
So:
  1. Pedelec
  2. ...eBike
  3. S-eBike
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Back around May 1, after all this love professed by NYC for ebikers, I read a post in another forum where an ebiker had to get off the Hudson River Parkway and ride his little 15 mph ebike in street traffic with horns blaring at him. Reason? His bike had a throttle and he spotted a ebike checkpoint ahead on the bike path. He didn't want his second ebike bike confiscated after having his first one taken a few weeks earlier in another check point.
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