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Old 08-10-18, 02:26 PM
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Help - Choosing a bike with a smooth e-assist feel

Have decided to purchase an e-bike and have now done short test drives on five of them. Looking for a peddle assist bike that the motor adds a very natural feel with little noise if possible. Also concerned over range but would probably give up range for a bike that feels like a regular bike with just a boost in power.

I have done short test drives on a Pedego, Electra, Trek , Giant and Copenhagen Wheel conversion.

Of the them all the Copenhagen Wheel had the most natural feel and I liked the back pedal regeneration slow down feature. Of concern here is the range and the phone interface reliability but I must say I really liked this option

Second was the Giant which seemed to have more range, etc. Reasonably smooth and intuitive power assist but not as much as the Copenhagen.

Trek was next and was very nice but there did seem to be a occasional lag in response. The others were less successful at integration of ride and motor or at least that is how it felt to me.

What other bikes should i try to find and ride, etc? Since this is all new to me what am I not considering and what do other think of my first too choices at this point?

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Old 08-10-18, 06:26 PM
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In truth, unless you set out to hate something, you will quickly get used to the assist on whatever you pick.

Keep in mind that there may be days when your are forced to pedal without power, and there may be days when you may want to pedal unassisted. I've only had one of the former and many of the latter. In which case, it's worth seeing how the bike works as a pure bike.
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Find and try as many as you can. Pick the one YOU like best.
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In truth, unless you set out to hate something, you will quickly get used to the assist on whatever you pick.

Keep in mind that there may be days when your are forced to pedal without power, and there may be days when you may want to pedal unassisted. I've only had one of the former and many of the latter. In which case, it's worth seeing how the bike works as a pure bike.
So true, and I wouldn't know anything about it, but I do know that range anxiety is a thing. But I don't know that people really run out of power as often as they think they will. I really like what I have read about the Copenhagen Wheel. The ONLY thing anyone has ever said bad about it is the 30 mile range worries them. Seriously. People who have never gone more than 10 miles (round trip) ever at one time are wringing their hands over an advertised 30 mile range of a motor. For me, it would be simple: if you have a bike already that you like, Copenhagen Wheel. Period. End of story. If you need a bike and an e-assist, a crank drive system has better performance. I imagine all the major systems are as good as any other. Buy the bike you like, and learn to work with the crank drive system it comes with.
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Thanks to all who responded.

I live on the West Coast of Florida and there seem to be limited choices available in the locals stores. My intention is to seek out and try what is available within an hour's drive but was looking for suggestions that might be worth a longer trip
None of the bikes were bad and I can understand why you might become accustomed to any of them but just like in buying anything why not look for what best suits your needs?

Range anxiety is probably in my head.. However it does seem (from reading the forums) that the stated range for any bike is probably an overestimated hope rather than a reality. For example I don't need 30 miles but 20 would get me downtown and back with a small margin for error. I seem to have read comments about 30 mile ranges being more like 20 or 17 depending on the amount of boost needed.

I am going to try the Copenhagen wheel once again.

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Since you ride Bromptons/birdies Jim, I guess $1749 for just a wheel, and $3088 for a road bike with the big red motor doesn't seem unrealistic to you. Personally, I think it is overpriced when you can buy a good basic ebike for less than $1500 and $3K gets you into the range of purpose built ebikes with mid drive motors. The Giants, Treks, and Bosch bikes are pretty nice, from what I remember on test rides. I believe their ranges with current batteries and a rider willing to pedal is over 50 miles. It all depends on speed.

I know you don't need much climbing ability in Florida. Twice, I've brought my little electrified kit folders with me to Florida in the winter. They top out at 18 mph and are perfect for your bike paths. The only hills we saw were the big causeway bridges and they handled the slope fine, catching up to roadies at the top. The lanes were too narrow to pass, probably bad etiquette, and I knew we would have just held them up going down.

I'm riding converted bikes myself, but our first ebike was purchased from Crazy Lennys in Madison WI where he had over 300 bikes in inventory. It was a 3 hour drive for us, but worth it. He has a shop in Winter Garden and it could be worth a drive if they have any inventory to test. I also recall passing a Pedego shop strategically located on the Pinella trail somewhere south of Tarpon Springs. Otherwise, I don't really know Florida except that I should spend more money down there so you locals can have low taxes.
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We all appreciate your spending money down here

18MPH is fine with me. Not a fast rider, just getting older with a few heart issues and figure an e-bike would get me out more and travel further. I will look up Crazy Lenny's and see if they have anything worth making a few hour road trip to. Thanks for the suggestion.

Would rather spend less but would like something that feels like a bike and not a motorized vehicle. The more natural it feels in boosting power the better I would like it.

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I like my Juiced bike with the "torque sensor". So the power output is proportional to the torque on the pedals not to the RPM. I assume all the higher-end bikes have that. But I have not ridden any other e-bikes nor have I piloted a motorcycle.

Seems like you can get a whole bike shipped to your door for the price of the 'Copenhagen wheel'?
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I've been to several e-bike expos, along with Interbike and Sea Otter the past few years and ridden a slew of e-bikes of every variety. I agree that you'll get used to almost any OEM bike and it will be satisfactory for you. I have an early Haibike with Yamaha mid-drive, probably one of the least desirable, and it's fine (but not as much fun as my BBS02 conversion).
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Try to find an EG brand bike. The pedal assist feature is very smooth. Range using pedal assist is 40 miles.
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