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2old 01-28-19 10:46 AM

ebikeling 36V Kit
 
Has anyone (DW) used ebikeling's 36V, geared kit with a 52V battery? Seems like many 52V controllers have 63V caps so it should be possible, but I don't want to purchase in order to find out.

Doc_Wui 01-28-19 02:28 PM

I didn't check the little caps when I had mine opened up. The big ones are 63V.

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It's a nice 22A controller. Has 9 MOSFET's.

I had two problems with the LCD display. (1) It cannot show speed on a coasting geared motor It's missing a speedometer input. (2) Pedal assist (5 level) is too strong. Accelerates too fast in PAS 1. I have spent a little time adjusting this, but it's not satisfactory to me. As recently as last Fall, customers were still having this issue.

On Amazon, he now sells a more expensive kit with Higo waterproof connectors. Pictures show a different LCD display too, so the above problems may be gone. It's just getting the right firmware.

I bought two ebikeling kits last year. One was the LCD version where I scrapped the controller and went with a KT unit. The second one I bought with LED and find it worked fine. I'll probably buy a second LED display to get the first controller working again. The LCD allows different battery voltage to be programmed, but the LED display has its voltage readout fixed to particular voltage. However, it still sends the right PAS signals.

2old 01-28-19 04:37 PM

Thanks DW.

MNebiker 02-04-19 05:07 PM

About 2 years ago I bought an Ebikeling 36V 550W front 700c kit with the LED display. I paired it with a 36V 12A LifeP04 battery pack. I was surprised by the quality of a low priced kit, and the install was easy.

At about 1500 miles I blew a mosfet in the standard controller. The battery has a high peak rate, so rather than replace the mosfet I bought a 30A 48V controller which has worked out fine. As noted, PAS level 1 can be a bit aggressive, so I usually turn it off in crowed places like parks.

Their prices are good, they are easy to work with, and overall, I am pleased with the package.

den458 03-26-19 06:57 PM

I recently bought the Ebikeling 36V 500W 26" rear geared kit with LCD. I applied it to my Sun EZ-Speedster SX recumbent bike. The build quality is excellent as far as I can tell, & I've learned enough about the programmable LCD features in use to conclude it's an excellent value. It's not perfect, but it's easily perfect-enough for me. Combined with a 36V 15.6 AHr battery (I understand it would also work fine with a 48V battery), it displayed some unbelievable range for me, in pedal-assist, in flat-Florida this winter. The only nuisance: it's true in my observations that speed is not continuously & accurately reported by the LCD. I simply continue to use my Cateye bike computer I've always used & rely on it for accurate speed & trip details. I learned that I could program the LCD to provide PAS in 3-steps, or 5-steps, or 9-steps. In 3-step-mode PAS-1 (ECO), my bike pedaled along with effort at about 17 mph on a full battery; in 5-step-mode PAS-1 (ECO), I pedaled along about 15 mph; in 9-step-mode PAS-2 (ECO, PAS-1 mysteriously operates the same as PAS-0) I pedal along about 13 mph. When I want to go a little faster for the same pedaling effort, I just bump-up the PAS level. I've played with the parameters available with the LCD, so that I have a delayed, gentle onset of assist. I don't understand everything about the LCD programming: Parameter P11, PAS sensitivity, range 1-24, I set it to 12, because whatever it does is too subtle for me to notice so far. I really wish I had a theoretical, block-diagram of the LCD capabilities.

I like to take long rides and I was concerned about a kit & battery combination that would minimally get me 40+ miles pedaling. It had to be a geared motor, so that when the battery shuts down, I could still easily pedal my now-heavier bike, without any DD motor drag. I'm 67 years old & 230 lbs, nearly 3 years post-GBS (Guillain-Barre Syndrome) onset, but otherwise in decent cardiovascular shape.

I've done a little exploring of my available range: In 9-step-mode, PAS-2 (lowest available working assist-level, providing minimal battery drain, yielding maximum range)... You may find it hard to believe, but... I pedaled, continuously, 80 miles in 70+ degree, reasonably calm weather on flat, paved Florida terrain and had 2-of-5 bars remaining on my LCD battery gauge. Numerous factors including primarily the battery capacity & my pedaling contribution determine my range. Your results will vary. I'm happy that my eBike has more range than I do. I was a limp noodle after 80 miles.

Agreed, Ebikeling is easy to work with. I definitely plan to buy another identical Ebikeling kit for my other EZ-Speedster here in Illinois. I'd unquestionably buy a 20" rear geared kit from Ebikeling if one were available in a normal tire-width version, but they only offer a 20" fat-tire version currently, & I think it is direct drive, not geared.

2old 03-27-19 06:27 AM

Possibly ebay will have the 20" kit you're looking for; more expensive, but definitely available from ebikesca, em3ev or dillenger.

Doc_Wui 03-27-19 10:16 AM

Nice report, den48, which ebikeling kit are you using? Is it the slightly more expensive one with round connectors and an integrated main harness sold on amazon, or the one with the usual jumble of assorted connectors sold on both amazon and ebay.

den458 03-30-19 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by Doc_Wui (Post 20857338)
Nice report, den48, which ebikeling kit are you using? Is it the slightly more expensive one with round connectors and an integrated main harness sold on amazon, or the one with the usual jumble of assorted connectors sold on both amazon and ebay.

I have the inexpensive solution, I think an incredible value, currently out-of-stock, but I understand they will have more of that inexpensive version later this year. They now offer my kit upgraded to a waterproof version of motor & connectors, for about a $50 upgrade over what I paid previously. I'm a fan of Ebikeling & my kit - really good fit for me once I setup the LCD parameters to my liking.

Ebikeling's 20" kit is currently a FAT-tire version only. I'd loved to have bought a 20" normal-tire kit from them, but I'm told that kit is not sufficient demand, & I understand. I did find a very similar 20" (normal-tire-width) rear-wheel (no tire/tube), geared 36V500W kit with PAS, throttle, brake-handles, disc-brake capable with color LCD8 display elsewhere. I expect delivery some weeks away. Looks like a 20" version nearly identical to what I got previously, but with a different, color LCD.

yukiinu 04-08-19 03:50 PM

36v 10a 500w motor
 
I bought a 500w 10a 36v motor, am installing it with the oem parts, no customizing except using 3 12v SLA batteries instead of lithium. This is lower power /acceleration etc than 52v etc and electronic s problems you are all talking about. At least I hope I don't have those problems. All the Amazon reviews were good.

den458 04-14-19 08:31 PM

This thread is about the Ebikeling 36V geared kit. I'm not sure if the last post belongs here on this thread.

yukiinu 04-21-19 11:18 PM

Restricted thread?
 
Is this thread only about Ebikeling ? If so, that should have been indicated at the beginning or by Bike Forums.

Doc_Wui 04-22-19 06:50 AM

If you find a geared motor kit in the USA that is competitive in price/features, it's worth hearing about it.

den458 04-28-19 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by yukiinu (Post 20894791)
Is this thread only about Ebikeling ? If so, that should have been indicated at the beginning or by Bike Forums.

YES, the thread title, at the beginning, is ebikeling 36V kit, so the thread focus is the ebikeling 36V kit.


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