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Old 01-01-20, 11:13 PM
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Help evaluating this crowdfunded ebike

I am toying with the idea of purchasing an ebike. Came across this crowdfunding ebike. Since I've never owned an ebike, I have no frame of reference and undoubtedly won't be asking the right questions. I will be riding the bike around town only (not on dirt or gravel roads). Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated.

Oh dear. Am not allowed to post the link. A goggle search using the following will take you to the bike I am interested in:
indiegogo capri e-bike

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Old 01-01-20, 11:41 PM
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Here's the link,.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/capri-e-bikes#/

They propose a 35 pound (16 Kilo) bike with 250W hub motor and 36V 7AH battery for $1350 USD. The battery, motor, and electronics available alone for $729 USD. Max speed of 25kmh, (15mph)

Yes, the technology to implement the above e-bike is available commercially, and I believe I could buy the motor and a similar battery over the counter from China. It would probably cost me around $500-600 USD.

I think their range chart is acceptable, maybe a bit on the high side, as their test rider could be putting in some effort.

You have to realize this is a very mild mannered motor. It probably wouldn't sell here in the USA.

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Old 01-01-20, 11:52 PM
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My comment is not about the bike but the crowdfunding. You can go into pretty much any bike store and buy an e bike, and you may even have a local e bike store. What’s the attraction of waiting until April, you hope, or maybe never?
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Old 01-01-20, 11:59 PM
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The price seems a little high for what they offer.
I mean, they offer Brooks saddle and hand grips, then put on the cheapest derailleur on the market,
Basically it's a city bike they normally produce with a motorized hub, something you can find almost anywhere.
If you look at the distance the bike can travel on one charge, the conditions are very controlled. In an enclosed bike track, so zero winds, completely smooth and flat, plus they mounted racing tires on the bike with a much higher tire pressure.
Those are just a few things that put me off.
Other than that, it is a nice looking bike. I do not think it is particularly better or worse than most e-bikes you can find on the market today.
Which makes me wonder, if all they do is add a motorized hub to a bike they have been producing for years, why is there such a long wait for the release?
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I'm turned off by crowd-funding because the individuals aren't compelled to send the buyers anything. Also, most of what I've seen could be replicated by careful purchases (IMO).
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Old 01-02-20, 07:15 AM
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Thank all of you for taking the time to offer your thoughts. I really appreciate it.
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As someone who has crowdfunded numerous items, and waited for one nearly 4 years, I concur with the above. Crowdfunding should only be for (1) things you can wait indefinitely for, and (2) with $ you can afford to lose. I always go into them with the attitude of "if I get it, that's cool, if not, whatever". As a result, I'm never disappointed, lol.
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Old 01-02-20, 05:35 PM
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I too have crowdfunded. I don't think I've done it as many times as you have, but I've always had success. My first time was for a tent I hoped to use during the upcoming summer, and indeed it was months late and I did not put it to use until a year later. Lesson learned.Thereafter, I never funded anything I ever considered to be on a deadline. In addition, this would be the first truly expensive item I have ever considered taking a chance on. The Capri bike interested me, as it is lighter than most e-bikes and the rider can easily sit upright - two important features for me. I am grateful for all the warnings and will continue to look locally for something else.

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I think we can add that it might be worth it if the item(s) are of a unique nature or a compelling unique selling proposition (USP). There may not be anything earth-shattering about the e-bikes in the Indigogo campaign but there will be individuals who will find them desirable enough. Just look how fast they reached their funding goal. As others have said, you can pretty much retro-fit any city type bike with an aftermarket conversion kit, but apparently there is a market for these crowdfunded e-bikes.

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As someone who has crowdfunded numerous items, and waited for one nearly 4 years, I concur with the above. Crowdfunding should only be for (1) things you can wait indefinitely for, and (2) with $ you can afford to lose. I always go into them with the attitude of "if I get it, that's cool, if not, whatever". As a result, I'm never disappointed, lol.
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Originally Posted by oldgalcruising View Post
I too have crowdfunded. I don't think I've done it as many times as you have, but I've always had success. My first time was for a tent I hoped to use during the upcoming summer, and indeed it was months late and I did not put it to use until a year later. Lesson learned.Thereafter, I never funded anything I ever considered to be on a deadline. In addition, this would be the first truly expensive item I have ever consider taking a chance on. The Capri bike interested me, as it is lighter than most e-bikes and the rider can easily sit upright - two important feathers for me. I am grateful for all the warnings and will continue to look locally for something else.
The Helix bike was 4 years from funding and still not fully delivered. Otoh, Bike Friday has crowdfunded 2 bikes and all were delivered on time - the difference being an established reputable company versus a start up with no track record. I funded an e-bike wheel and was lucky to get 70% of my money back as many people lost everything (some up to 2 grand). So my rule of thumb now is nothing over a hundred dollars unless it's a company with a track record of delivery. Getting half off a bike you never receive is not a good deal. Furthermore, most e bikes have proprietary batteries or other parts and many crowdfunding companies fail to survive a year so then you're SOL. Stick with something reputable for such a big purchase. You'll be glad you did.
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Originally Posted by oldgalcruising View Post
I too have crowdfunded. I don't think I've done it as many times as you have, but I've always had success. My first time was for a tent I hoped to use during the upcoming summer, and indeed it was months late and I did not put it to use until a year later. Lesson learned.Thereafter, I never funded anything I ever considered to be on a deadline. In addition, this would be the first truly expensive item I have ever considered taking a chance on. The Capri bike interested me, as it is lighter than most e-bikes and the rider can easily sit upright - two important features for me. I am grateful for all the warnings and will continue to look locally for something else.
Seems like there are many "upright" ebikes available or find a comfortable bike and "convert" it. There are many individuals on this site you can use for assistance.
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Originally Posted by linberl View Post
The Helix bike was 4 years from funding and still not fully delivered. Otoh, Bike Friday has crowdfunded 2 bikes and all were delivered on time - the difference being an established reputable company versus a start up with no track record. I funded an e-bike wheel and was lucky to get 70% of my money back as many people lost everything (some up to 2 grand). So my rule of thumb now is nothing over a hundred dollars unless it's a company with a track record of delivery. Getting half off a bike you never receive is not a good deal. Furthermore, most e bikes have proprietary batteries or other parts and many crowdfunding companies fail to survive a year so then you're SOL. Stick with something reputable for such a big purchase. You'll be glad you did.
Agree, and might consider crowdfund from an established company like the one Juiced bikes had recently. Also, the bike was compelling.
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