cat0020

Good news for e-bike development:

https://newatlas.com/bicycles/valeo-...8ogSU1Weak1dzQ

Pop N Wood

Pretty cool

Hopefully the settings are programable so the user can tweak the assist levels and desired shift points.

BTW, not sure I would want to ride that cargo bike on anything but smooth pavement. Putting 150 kilos of cargo directly above a 20" front wheel with zero suspension will make even minor potholes real filling shakers and rim wreckers. Front visibility is heavily obscured and there is no chance of hopping or otherwise unloading the front wheel.

cat0020

20" front wheel is plenty strong IME, wife & I have a semi-recumbent tandem since 2007; we put about 1200-1500 miles on it together, never had to true the wheels, yet.
Besides, the front tire on that cargo e-bike looks much wider than the front tire on my semi-recumbent tandem.

fooferdoggie 

yes looks good. far more torque then most need though. my bosch has 63 and thats plenty I can climb 20% grades

Pop N Wood

Yes, I ride a V-Rex, the 20" Alex rim is very strong.

But 20" wheels are absolutely brutal for any edge around an inch tall, especially at speed. I have encountered raised sections of concrete that required me slow or even stop and walk over. I'll bet you have as well.

Simple matter of physics, a smaller diameter wheel does not roll over obstructions as well as a larger one.

The other huge issue with recumbents is they do not allow lifting the front wheel, no way to hop. Even unloaded I'll bet that cargo bike has a similar issue. Loaded and you will be hitting crap you can't see.

cat0020

Why would someone want to ride over obstructions on a heavy cargo bike or recumbent?
Even with a stocker in front of my semi-recumbent tandem, I see well enough to avoid hitting stuff.
Seems to me you're just imagining problems.

Pop N Wood

Bike trail I ride has a problem with uplift. They cut out some of the sections of the trail and covered them with metal plates while they repaired the drainage. Plates had square edges, 3/4 inch thick, whole trail wide. Rode over that plate every day of the week so knew it was there. Three other places on that same trail had concrete pads that lifted by an inch or so. Again, square edge the whole trail wide, again rode over them every day so knew they were there. Entire rest of the trail was pristine concrete so never considered riding somewhere else

Imagination?

I don't understand why recumbent riders get so defensive about bents. Love my bent but there are somethings they simply don't do as well as an upright. On my gravel bike the trail wide obstructions were absolutely zero issue, but had to slow the bent cause hitting them at speed risked a pinch flat.

That cargo bike is a poor design, there are better ones out there.

cat0020

Just because you have problem with small wheel & uplift, doesn't mean everyone else has that same problem.

Learn to ride.

Pop N Wood

Why is it recumbent riders get so irrational and defensive about any honest discussion critical of recumbents? I think that contributes to their poor reputation on this site.

I know enough about riding to lift my front wheel to clear obstructions. Also know since that isn't possible on a bent I instead slow down.

cat0020

Because you personally cannot avoid obstructions or uplift, you assume & generalize that recumbent riders in general have the same problem?
If you don't understand something, that's your problem; stop assuming that applies to everyone else.
You yourself give poor reputation on this site.
Stop generalizing problems of your own as possibility for everyone who ride recumbent.

Pop N Wood

lol