Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Electric Bikes
Reload this Page >

Sharing a cargo bike with my super short wife?

Notices
Electric Bikes Here's a place to discuss ebikes, from home grown to high-tech.
 Magic Cycle

Sharing a cargo bike with my super short wife?

Old 01-21-23, 10:31 AM
  #1  
rosefarts
With a mighty wind
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 2,192
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 871 Post(s)
Liked 610 Times in 363 Posts
Sharing a cargo bike with my super short wife?

Im 59, comfortably ride a 54cm road bike, medium in sized bikes.

My wife on the other hand is pretty short. Shes officially 49. Shes never had a bike that actually fits her and her little Georgina Terry Ironman is huge on her.

Were living in a pretty bike friendly place and would sure love to get an e-cargo bike as a grocery getter and kid transporter. We would both ride this bike.

We would need it to handle two kids who are obviously small for their age.

Im going to use Yuba as an example since I just looked them up and because my neighbor took my kids plus his all on a ride and everyone fit on his Yuba. Im open to other brands too. They state 5 to 66 rider range. Im sure with a couple tweaks I could get it where it would fit her well enough, just barely.

The question becomes swapping between me and her. Shes roughly as mechanically inclined as a cantaloupe. A quick release seat or even that plus a dropper is fine for the booty.

The stem and handlebar position though, Id want her to be able to get her position without tools or with minimal tools.

Is this at all possible?
rosefarts is online now  
Old 01-21-23, 02:25 PM
  #2  
2old
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: socal
Posts: 3,676
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 740 Post(s)
Liked 577 Times in 436 Posts
Normally eschewed by bicycling devotees, how about an adjustable stem? The bonus is that as you lower it, the bars become closer to the seat. Also, I think they're available with quick releases. One thing to consider is that the down tube on some cargo bikes has a section adjacent to the BB and parallel to the ground. Adding a DIY mid-drive reduces ground clearance substantially, so in some instances a hub motor might be a superior option.
2old is offline  
Old 01-21-23, 02:46 PM
  #3  
Chuck Naill
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: US
Posts: 652
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 335 Post(s)
Liked 79 Times in 56 Posts
I really like the idea of using a bike for transportation to run errands and such. I have a fine grocery, community pool, restaurants, and ball fields that I would be perfect for a family using bicycles. I just don't know if you're going to be happy with just one bike. My children and grandchildren all had bicycles that fit before they got to five feet tall. We used Electra kids/Townies and Specialized Rock Hoppers.
Chuck Naill is offline  
Old 01-21-23, 06:12 PM
  #4  
rosefarts
With a mighty wind
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 2,192
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 871 Post(s)
Liked 610 Times in 363 Posts
Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
I really like the idea of using a bike for transportation to run errands and such. I have a fine grocery, community pool, restaurants, and ball fields that I would be perfect for a family using bicycles. I just don't know if you're going to be happy with just one bike. My children and grandchildren all had bicycles that fit before they got to five feet tall. We used Electra kids/Townies and Specialized Rock Hoppers.
So yeah, Im going to be home shopping soon and enough space in the yard to build a shed for the bikes is definitely on the list.

Ill have my 4. My wifes one, and Canyon makes an MTB that is supposed to fit her, so maybe one more. The cargo bike whatever that turns out to be. My oldest will likely shed his training wheels this spring, and my youngest will hopefully follow soon. Plus all the scooters, ski gear, and that unicycle I still think I can learn to ride.

So yeah, definitely no question that were going to have a lot of bikes.

The poster above you mentioned hub drive vs mid drive. I can definitely see the appeal to that plus im comfortable building wheels, so I can save a fraction there too. Ive never ridden a front wheel motor before, do they handle funny? Ive heard they dont have the power of a mid-drive but is it enough? I live in a hilly area and most rides would be between 2 and 7 miles. The kids currently have a combined weight of 60lbs but that will only increase.

As for building my own ebike, if I can find an older Yuba Boda Boda, that makes sense. Theyre supposed to fit 49 to 510 which is both of us. Aside from a one off like that, Id probably buy a factory equipped one.
rosefarts is online now  
Old 01-21-23, 07:45 PM
  #5  
cat0020
Ride more, eat less
 
cat0020's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Philla PA, Hoboken NJ, Brooklyn NY
Posts: 1,638

Bikes: Too many but never enough.

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 497 Post(s)
Liked 439 Times in 295 Posts
I'm 5' 10", my wife is about 4' 10", we have bikes that the two of us can share; but crankarm length is the only limiting factor.

Her short legs would have her knees come up near her chest level on the upstroke of the crankarms.
Changing from 170mm crankarm to 152mm crankarm would allow the wife to pedal much easier.

My most recent cargo ebike purchase was a Black Friday purchase from Alibaba, received two weeks ago; I put about 10 miles on it today in windy condition, 40 degree F weather.
Upright riding position, dual batteries 36 Ah capacity total, 750w hub motor, hydraulic brakes (which activates the rear brake light), 5 PAS levels, with 35 km/h top speed with throttle, smooth power output/engagement.
$1662 delivered to my door.



Last edited by cat0020; 01-27-23 at 08:52 AM.
cat0020 is offline  
Likes For cat0020:
Old 01-22-23, 06:43 PM
  #6  
2old
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: socal
Posts: 3,676
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 740 Post(s)
Liked 577 Times in 436 Posts
If you reside in a hilly area, a mid-drive is superior. I think purchasing a factory built unit is the best option (for you).

Last edited by 2old; 01-24-23 at 09:34 AM.
2old is offline  
Old 01-23-23, 03:58 PM
  #7  
antimonysarah
Senior Member
 
antimonysarah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Medford, MA
Posts: 642

Bikes: Nishiki Bel-Air, Brompton P6L, Seven Resolute SLX, Co-motion Divide, Xtracycle RFA

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 74 Post(s)
Liked 53 Times in 28 Posts
Originally Posted by rosefarts View Post
Ive never ridden a front wheel motor before, do they handle funny?
From a test ride at an e-bike demo day thing: yes, front drive is strange. Mid drive and rear drive both handle normally. If you can find something that fits her and has a very upright riding position and a quick-release seatpost, it'll probably be fine for you. Smaller wheels to put the kids' center of gravity lower to help wrestle the bike around (especially if she's also much lighter as well as shorter, she'll have less of her own mass to stabilize things.)

A current bike rather than a DIY special may make accessories easier to find. Of the bikes we demoed (5'5" and 5'8", so a much easier pair to fit), the one that felt like it would go down the smallest was the Tern GSD, which officially says 4'11" at the shortest, but if you can find one to try that seems worth trying.
antimonysarah is offline  
Old 01-24-23, 09:43 AM
  #8  
2old
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: socal
Posts: 3,676
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 740 Post(s)
Liked 577 Times in 436 Posts
Everyone has his/her opinion, but for me a front wheel hub system is perfect for a cargo bike since it helps distribute the weight evenly. My first conversion was front hub and was a marvelous addition for on and off road adventures. It's still being enjoyed by my daughter on a cruiser eight years later. Of course, as I stated before, it's not for carrying cargo in hilly areas.
2old is offline  
Old 01-25-23, 06:37 AM
  #9  
PhilFo 
Tinker-er
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Mid-Atlantic
Posts: 82

Bikes: 1958 Rudge Sports (all original); 1983 Univega Alpina Uno; 1981 Miyata 610; 1973 Raleigh Twenty

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 26 Post(s)
Liked 38 Times in 31 Posts
What about the Bike Friday Haul A Day? Seems like a great option, and one of the only options as well, considering that both of you want to be able to ride it.
PhilFo is offline  
Old 01-25-23, 08:27 AM
  #10  
cat0020
Ride more, eat less
 
cat0020's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Philla PA, Hoboken NJ, Brooklyn NY
Posts: 1,638

Bikes: Too many but never enough.

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 497 Post(s)
Liked 439 Times in 295 Posts
Bike Friday stuff can cost a premium, Haul-A-Day with electric assist is upwards of $4k; and also long wait time if you are ordering for yourself specifically.
Bike Friday frames are somewhat fragile, I don't know how well those thin tubes on Bike Friday frames hold up while carrying extra cargo but IME of riding the Tikit for 4 years, once the frame gets damaged, you have to send it back to Oregon to get repair done, very costly.
cat0020 is offline  
Old 01-25-23, 08:58 PM
  #11  
rosefarts
With a mighty wind
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 2,192
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 871 Post(s)
Liked 610 Times in 363 Posts
Update, I bought a bike.


I saw a Yuba Boda Boda in what appeared to be good shape for a decent price. It came with the butt pad, kid cage, and dual saddlebags.

I took her to see it and see if it fit. It actually fits! She rode it around comfortably. I could get shorter cranks and stem but it seems fine.

I could tell she was in love with it. Shes a notorious cheapskate for bike purchases and was just beaming. I Venmos the seller right away and now its in my garage.

This bike has a front dynamo hub that powers front and rear lights. Kinda cool. For that and just the overall layout of the bike, I ordered a 500w Bafang rear wheel. 48v 17.5ah battery.

The front fork is Disc compatible but the dynamo hub isnt. The rear brake is post mount only. Considering its her and the kids, Im not going to mess around with Alivio level V-brakes, so a front and rear set of Magura HS11s are also on the way. I asked for the brake sensor, not the replacement lever, so these can work.

Right now Im $1600 in and expect to spend a little more on odds and ends.

Im very happy with all of this. Itll probably be on the road mid February.

Its dark now so no photos but here is one that the seller had in the ad. Not pictured is the kid cage and bags.
rosefarts is online now  
Likes For rosefarts:
Old 01-26-23, 01:21 PM
  #12  
Harhir
Senior Member
 
Harhir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 629

Bikes: Fahrradmanufaktur Trekking Bike, 2 x Lightning Phantom, bikeE AT, Radwagon3

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 174 Post(s)
Liked 121 Times in 62 Posts
Happy riding. Cargo bikes are awesome. And I am a cheapskate as well. I was planning to electrify my home made cargo bike as well but could not resist a 4 year old Radwagon3 for $400. Sold the other one now.
Harhir is offline  
Old 01-26-23, 02:09 PM
  #13  
rosefarts
With a mighty wind
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 2,192
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 871 Post(s)
Liked 610 Times in 363 Posts
Im rather curious what Ill get in the package.

The Bafang USA site only sells front wheels and mid drives. I wanted a rear wheel.

The top hit on Amazon has rear drives available but in their poorly translated description, they mention that its disc only. If youd like rim, send them a message. Two messages now and I dont think they have any idea what Im asking. Though they did confirm that Ill get the correct sensor for the brake levers.

The official site has front wheels disk and rim compatible.

I do believe there is a greater than 0% chance that the wheel I get will have a brake track and the seller doesnt understand the difference.

Im not worried. The wrong rim would give me a reason to find some sort of bulletproof rear rim and lace it up with fat spokes. Maybe thats unnecessary, my wife + 2 kids are probably 170lbs.

It looks like most everything should be in my hands by next Friday. Assuming no major issues, I should have it all on the road a day or two after that.
rosefarts is online now  
Old 01-28-23, 03:52 PM
  #14  
cat0020
Ride more, eat less
 
cat0020's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Philla PA, Hoboken NJ, Brooklyn NY
Posts: 1,638

Bikes: Too many but never enough.

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 497 Post(s)
Liked 439 Times in 295 Posts
I thought this is a great value for $1700.
https://electrek.co/2022/12/12/eunor...c-bike-review/
cat0020 is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2023 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.