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09-14-23, 08:03 AM
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Take a good look at the trek eBike.
Now take off the motor and batteries.
Would you normally ride this bike, unpowered, for any considerable distance?
If not, then it isn't a bike.
It's a motorcycle with pedals and the pedals are vestigial limbs to comply with old timey laws.
Now take off the motor and batteries.
Would you normally ride this bike, unpowered, for any considerable distance?
If not, then it isn't a bike.
It's a motorcycle with pedals and the pedals are vestigial limbs to comply with old timey laws.
09-14-23, 09:17 AM
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Take a good look at the trek eBike.
Now take off the motor and batteries.
Would you normally ride this bike, unpowered, for any considerable distance?
If not, then it isn't a bike.
It's a motorcycle with pedals and the pedals are vestigial limbs to comply with old timey laws.
Now take off the motor and batteries.
Would you normally ride this bike, unpowered, for any considerable distance?
If not, then it isn't a bike.
It's a motorcycle with pedals and the pedals are vestigial limbs to comply with old timey laws.
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09-14-23, 03:38 PM
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...wow
Regardless of the laws, regulations or limits set from factory, there are those who will always want to go faster than the machine is designated or regulated to do so.
Do you comply to speed limits ALL THE TIME while on public roads? I know I don't and I know most people don't, regardless what vehicle they operate.
Do you comply to speed limits ALL THE TIME while on public roads? I know I don't and I know most people don't, regardless what vehicle they operate.
I think that's about all I have.
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09-14-23, 03:42 PM
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What was the business name? Where was it located?
How long ago did the business thrive and what was the duration?
What was the volume of the business to be considered "thriving"?
Education is more important than legislation.
People need to be educated of the rules of the road or wherever they ride their bikes.
People need to be educated the danger to themselves and others when they operate their bike, ebikes, e-scooter, e-mopeds or any other vehicle on public roads.
Personally, I think licensing is not the right approach.
In many countries around the world, education at schools about traffic safety & laws are taught from childhood all the way to high school.
Cycling is a major part of that education that should be taught like a life long skill that everyone should know, as swimming.. or maybe even math.
I feel that in America, most drivers think bicycles & motorcycles don't belong on public roads, which is a mentality that's been imbedded across decades of car culture and cheap oil in America.
Meanwhile, parents should also be held accountable when their child is caught breaking traffic laws, causing accidents on high-seed e-bikes.
If they can afford high cost, high speed e-bikes to for their children, they can also afford higher (x5 or x10) auto insurance premiums.
Regardless of laws & rules or restrictions on vehicles, people who want to ride fast will always find ways to do it, because it is fun.
But at least when they are educated of the danger they present to themselves & others; maybe they would re-evaluate before taking too much risk (or breaking too many laws) while riding.
How long ago did the business thrive and what was the duration?
What was the volume of the business to be considered "thriving"?
Education is more important than legislation.
People need to be educated of the rules of the road or wherever they ride their bikes.
People need to be educated the danger to themselves and others when they operate their bike, ebikes, e-scooter, e-mopeds or any other vehicle on public roads.
Personally, I think licensing is not the right approach.
In many countries around the world, education at schools about traffic safety & laws are taught from childhood all the way to high school.
Cycling is a major part of that education that should be taught like a life long skill that everyone should know, as swimming.. or maybe even math.
I feel that in America, most drivers think bicycles & motorcycles don't belong on public roads, which is a mentality that's been imbedded across decades of car culture and cheap oil in America.
Meanwhile, parents should also be held accountable when their child is caught breaking traffic laws, causing accidents on high-seed e-bikes.
If they can afford high cost, high speed e-bikes to for their children, they can also afford higher (x5 or x10) auto insurance premiums.
Regardless of laws & rules or restrictions on vehicles, people who want to ride fast will always find ways to do it, because it is fun.
But at least when they are educated of the danger they present to themselves & others; maybe they would re-evaluate before taking too much risk (or breaking too many laws) while riding.
I was wrong, I still had a big belly laugh to add to your libertarian road manifesto. Thank you for this opportunity to contribute.
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09-14-23, 04:17 PM
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And who would want to pedal this beast without a functioning motor?
https://electrek.co/2023/09/14/fucar...electric-bike/
https://electrek.co/2023/09/14/fucar...electric-bike/
09-14-23, 09:42 PM
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And who would want to pedal this beast without a functioning motor?
https://electrek.co/2023/09/14/fucar...electric-bike/
https://youtu.be/GoH-zRuaV_k?si=1usCSUiNrfavXtqM
https://electrek.co/2023/09/14/fucar...electric-bike/
https://youtu.be/GoH-zRuaV_k?si=1usCSUiNrfavXtqM
(not the exact beast, but it IS a 4.8" tire monstrosity)
((skinny tires are for the weak))
09-15-23, 06:46 AM
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When you get salty with people, especially grown men, you can expect them to get salty back.
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09-15-23, 06:57 AM
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At least I don't call people names nor dishonestly assume anything about them personally;
if that's allowed in a public forum, I guess it's okay to call people names?
I rather be weak and efficient over pedaling harder than need to.
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09-15-23, 07:37 AM
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The remark “If you call yourself a cyclist” is provocative and just asking for trouble. Please be careful. 
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09-16-23, 06:50 PM
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Last chance for this thread. Enough with the personal insults. If you don’t have anything positive to contribute to the discussion, walk away.
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09-17-23, 06:07 AM
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Honda brings back its ’80s MotoCompo micro-motorcycle, but this time it’s electric
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https://electrek.co/2023/09/14/honda...bike-unveiled/
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https://electrek.co/2023/09/14/honda...bike-unveiled/
