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Safety Certifications
My Background: I'm a regulatory engineer (electronics background). I worked for UL for 21 years and now I work for Snap-on Tools, helping them get cordless tools certified. I looked into the standards for certification requirements.
I found that there are a LOT that goes into safety certifications on an eBike: Bike system, battery and charger are all separate. Tests they do on the bike:
The battery cells have to be certified on their own. Then, they are certified in the pack and again in a certified bike. The chargers have their own requirements. This is a big expense, but they really do make the bikes safer. I remember when cheap Chinese hoverboards were burning houses down. The US government approached UL and asked them to write a standard so they could require it. Now that eBikes/batteries are burning down shops in NYC, there is a standard for electrical systems for eBikes (UL 2849) as well as for the battery packs for use in light electric vehicles (UL 2271). |
Very informative, thanks!
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I will attest to UL's thoroughness in developing their certifications. I worked as a construction document reviewer for a local agency. A bit of my job was to verify UL certifications for photovoltaic, storage and generating equipment.
If you want to verify an ebike's UL certification(s) look at its UL labelling. then look that up on UL's online directories. |
Snap On you say...please send me a digital Torque wrench at your price I will send you the money ; )
Really great informative post as well but it was hard to get past the Snap-On part as I love me some Snap-On : ) |
Back before we had internet, I was put in charge of UL safety approvals for our company's product. Good thing I had experts in my group because I knew nothing, but I developed a great respect for the tests and standards.
Are UL 2849 and UL 2771 available to the casual viewer on the internet. I would expect that you have to buy the test standards. |
Originally Posted by Doc_Wui
(Post 23073840)
Back before we had internet, I was put in charge of UL safety approvals for our company's product. Good thing I had experts in my group because I knew nothing, but I developed a great respect for the tests and standards.
Are UL 2849 and UL 2771 available to the casual viewer on the internet. I would expect that you have to buy the test standards. You might be able to find older versions of those standards, which will be mostly the same, in a web search Snap-on subscribes to their services and those aren't based on international standards, so I can view the standards and answer your questions, probably. Oh, I see you're pretty local to me, we can get together for a beer some time and talk about it. I'm just over The Cheddar Curtain in Kenosha. Drop me a line if interested. |
Originally Posted by veganbikes
(Post 23073703)
Snap On you say...please send me a digital Torque wrench at your price I will send you the money ; )
Really great informative post as well but it was hard to get past the Snap-On part as I love me some Snap-On : ) Looking at the prices, I think our torque wrenches are priced pretty fairly. They're not like a $300 1/4" socket set or anything. ;-) |
Originally Posted by Smaug1
(Post 23074550)
As an employee, I get 50% off retail price, which is still too expensive for someone who doesn't use the tools every day. If they gave us a better deal, they would really have to watch out for employees reselling them on ebay and in pawn shops. (and we lose our job if we get caught doing that, so it's high stakes)
Looking at the prices, I think our torque wrenches are priced pretty fairly. They're not like a $300 1/4" socket set or anything. ;-) The digital torque wrenches aren't cheap but they are good high quality tools so yeah you get what you pay for. I love everything Snap-On I have which isn't a ton of stuff but all really high quality high performance tools that get the job done and look good doing it. |
Can't find a UL label on my BMC, only a reference to EN ISO 4210, which covers bicycles of any kind, and a Class 3 28 mph label.
https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/en/#iso:s...:-1:ed-2:v1:en Did you know there's a maximum saddle height? You do now. The motor, battery, display may have their own labeling but I'm not spelunking to find out. |
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