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Old 04-12-07, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Zorba
That looks like a (rebranded?) Biria.
I believe it is. I think (haven't asked) that Hinzmann rebrands Birias, other than the Hinzmann e-kit, the bike frame is identical to a Biria.
And HERE is a close look at the one I got for my father.
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Dang it! All this yak about electric bikes is going to turn me into a wuss. The temptation to put a Bionx P350 on my velomobile is getting harder to fight. I won't do it until fall at least, but fighting headwinds with electric boost has got to be more fun.
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Originally Posted by stokell
"Sulfation of batteries starts when specific gravity falls below 1.225 or voltage measures less than 12.4 (12v Battery) or 6.2 (6 volt battery). Sulfation hardens the battery plates reducing and eventually destroying the ability of the battery to generate Volts and Amps."

Or more simply put, lead acid batteries like to be kept fully charged. If you run them down, you should charge them immediately, or they will gradually become less efficient and die.

Not every municipality recycles batteries so they may end up in a land fill and eventually leach into the ground water.

NiCad is better and will take more charges. NiMH is better for the environment.
The mongoose runs on SLA (AGM) batteries unless they redesigned the bike recently hence my post. However, the mongoose with its geared motor would be a good fit for NiMH if Hoofer gets creative and can cram 30 "D" cells into his current battery case. Unlike the brushless hub motors we are using the Mongoose's electric motor spends more time at its peak efficiency and draws fewer amps thus less overheating the battery.
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Originally Posted by banerjek
Dang it! All this yak about electric bikes is going to turn me into a wuss. The temptation to put a Bionx P350 on my velomobile is getting harder to fight. I won't do it until fall at least, but fighting headwinds with electric boost has got to be more fun.
If I were given a velomobile tommorrow I would have an electric assist installed for the Monday morning commute. Aerodynamics are great, but I'm not going to haul 300lbs. of rider and velo up even our modest hills here in Mississippi w/o an assist. You won't regret it.
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Originally Posted by LandLuger
If I were given a velomobile tommorrow I would have an electric assist installed for the Monday morning commute. Aerodynamics are great, but I'm not going to haul 300lbs. of rider and velo up even our modest hills here in Mississippi w/o an assist. You won't regret it.
That is what I'm afraid of.

Actually, my velomobile only gives a modest aero advantage. What's special about it though is that I can convert back to a bare tadpole in a few minutes and the velo kit adds less than 20lbs to my trike so I can still climb hills.

My velomobile will turn me into a wuss. I've ridden in all kinds of crazy weather for years, but I tell you, it's so much easier to stay dry and warm when you're fully enclosed. Being dry and warm is nice.
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Originally Posted by banerjek
That is what I'm afraid of. . .
What exactly are you afraid of? The weight or losing your ability to climb? Most of my transportational riding is done on the ebike, but I can still out climb most of the local club riders on the weekends--on a low-racer even! So I'm kinda confused by your post.
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Old 04-13-07, 01:19 PM
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Not to dwell on the technicalities, but this thread is actually an "Electric Trike Update."
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Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma
I know about legalized status. I saw that around Oct (I think) 2006. Up north of the city the sidewalk thing is not enforced. At least I've not seen anyone get pulled over on the sidewalk yet. Downtown I can understand if a cop pulls you over as it'll be more crowded down there. The cops up here don't mind. I've seen many adults on bikes when I've pulled up right beside the cop cruiser on my bike on the road. They just look at me and I wave back and they look at the other bikes on the sidewalk waiting for the lights to change and looking at the adults on bike crossing the road and back onto the sidewalk again. Maybe they might enforce it more when it's bike week to boost up some revenue.


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The cops won't bother a cyclist on the sidewalk within the city either. They've told me so. Since the infraction is merely a by-law, they refuse to enforce it, unless there's an actual injury. They wave a 'superiority' complex about these things and leave it to by-law enforcement officers (Yeah, like you'll ever see one of those guys) to handle. One cop I know said if they see a cyclist on the sidewalk they wait until he rides across the cross-walk---then he is in their jurisdiction---and that's when they'll ticket him/her if they even bother with the cyclist at all.
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Why not use studded tires? I would ride my Nokian Extremes on a hockey rink... it is safer than walking or driving a car on ice.

No offense- but trikes are not bikes either
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Old 04-13-07, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by stokell
Hi all!
I read with interest the thread started by Joe concerning electic bikes. It's kind of tough to read all the posts, but I spent about half an hour today, reading through them.

There are a minority who believe that ebikes are not bikes at all, and are something like motor bikes.

I commute 42 km's a day. It is possible for me to do the entire trip many days, but I'm limited in the winter by the fact that ice and snow make it dangerous to bike. As an experiment this winter I bought an electric hub for an adult tricycle.

I invite you to visit my journal on crazyguyonabike and let me know your opinion.
I'd be curious to know where and how you got your trike set up. Did you do it yourself or have it done at a shop? Where did you get that parts? I have a trike as well and the electric assist would be a big help on some of the hills I have to deal with. Last year, I put my back out going up the hill from Davenport to St. Clair and was on my back for five days.

Can you pm me with the details?
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Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma
That has got to be the funnest (sp?) lock up photo I've seen ever. Yah sometimes the posts arn't there or they're way over sized if you find it and not U-lock friendly. A mini grocery shopping center I saw recently have some really suck lock ups. It's just a concreate block with a small eyelet hole in it. I laughed when I saw that. Hell I'mnot even sure if the Kyrptonite NYC chains will go through the hole. Time sliek that a chain is hugely favored but said chain is 5.5lbs and costs $160-$170 CDN >_<;
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The concrete block with eyelet is the most common lock up I have seen in this area. And I greatly doubt a NYC chain would fit. My combo cable lock doesn't fit and they are worthless for U-locks. I usually look for something better but for quick runs into the grocery the covered lockup block beside the front door is worth using.
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Yes the Mongoose uses a SLA type battery.
I agree, charging it at work would be better, but it would be a bit of a chore, which I am trying to avoid.
Also, I'm thinking that for the nine or so hours sitting at work, it is maybe 25% depleted. From what I understand, it is much more damaging to discharge the battery deeply.
Currie sells replacement batteries for $80 for a pair, which does seem a bit stiff.
I haven't really looked into it yet, but I have thought that when the current batteries don't hold an adequate charge, there would be an opportunity to try something other than a straight stock replacement.
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Originally Posted by Hoofer
Yes the Mongoose uses a SLA type battery.
I agree, charging it at work would be better, but it would be a bit of a chore, which I am trying to avoid.
Also, I'm thinking that for the nine or so hours sitting at work, it is maybe 25% depleted. From what I understand, it is much more damaging to discharge the battery deeply.
Currie sells replacement batteries for $80 for a pair, which does seem a bit stiff.
I haven't really looked into it yet, but I have thought that when the current batteries don't hold an adequate charge, there would be an opportunity to try something other than a straight stock replacement.
The unfortunate thing about SLA is the weight. It is not so much the weight on the bicycle, but rather the cost to ship the things. Originating in China, I bet the vast majority of the cost of the SLA battery is shipping. With your low voltage Mongoose, going to NiMH is easy and cheap. However, my 72V setup might be problematic and labor intensive to convert to NiMH--though there are many ebike users running 72V NiMH. I'm holding out for newer technologies like LiFEPO4. I'm not worried about having to replace my battery anytime soon because I carry my chargers in the backpack when I know the bike is going to sit somewhere for a couple of hours.
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