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Old 07-30-07, 12:01 AM
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Are these hub kits any good? $285 shipped brushless

found these
http://www.ampedbikes.com
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Old 07-30-07, 12:38 PM
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Seems to be a good deal for USA.
But you have to provide you own battery.

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Old 07-30-07, 03:21 PM
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Looks like the GoldenMotor.com kit. You might want to check that site out. I have no idea whether they are any good or not. I'm curious also.
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Old 07-31-07, 10:01 PM
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thanx

thanx.. Still looking for more information
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Old 08-03-07, 11:55 PM
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I ordered one

I ordered one. I'll let you all know how it goes. I read that they are pretty much the same as higher end Crystalytes..

Thx for all the info here guys!
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Old 08-13-07, 11:25 AM
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Did you get your kit up and going yet. Curious as to what you think about it.
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Old 08-13-07, 12:22 PM
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i thought about this too
once you get a battery shipped to you, it ain't too far from a $500 Crystalyte
so it seems the pricing is similar to most places
at times, a suitable NiMH would go for around $200+
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Smile I got it!

Hi.. The reason I did not buy the crystalyte is because the $500 model is not brushless..

Brushless motors are about 30% more efficient than brushed motors giving me 30% more milage. For the exact same brushless 26" kit I bought from ampedbikes for $299 it would cost $1000 or more from Crystalyte for the same setup.

So heres the scoop.. I recieved my kit on Friday I installed it that night it took an hour longer than the 20 minutes the website claims but I havent been able to stay off of it since! It does around 27 mph and pulls me up hills like a billygoat!

So I paid total of $340 for the 36v 500W kit then I bought lithium batteries from fox batteries another $350. I couldnt be happier! This is the most fun I have had in ages. The lithium batteries give me a range with slight pedaling of about 50 miles I havent tried to see how far I could go without pedaling at all but I would imagine about 25-30 miles, the lithium batteries are very efficient.

I would post pictures but I dont know how

Anyways thanks for the forum
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Old 08-13-07, 05:44 PM
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Great if you could post photos of your ebike.

For posting photo files:
1) Click "Manage Attachment"
2) An small window pops up. Choose your photo file from your own computer.
3) Click "Upload" and it is done.
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Old 08-13-07, 08:00 PM
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BikeFreaks,

Please tell about Fox Batteries. Where? How?
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Originally Posted by bikefreaks View Post
Hi.. The reason I did not buy the crystalyte is because the $500 model is not brushless..

Brushless motors are about 30% more efficient than brushed motors giving me 30% more milage. For the exact same brushless 26" kit I bought from ampedbikes for $299 it would cost $1000 or more from Crystalyte for the same setup.

So heres the scoop.. I recieved my kit on Friday I installed it that night it took an hour longer than the 20 minutes the website claims but I havent been able to stay off of it since! It does around 27 mph and pulls me up hills like a billygoat!

So I paid total of $340 for the 36v 500W kit then I bought lithium batteries from fox batteries another $350. I couldnt be happier! This is the most fun I have had in ages. The lithium batteries give me a range with slight pedaling of about 50 miles I havent tried to see how far I could go without pedaling at all but I would imagine about 25-30 miles, the lithium batteries are very efficient.

I would post pictures but I dont know how

Anyways thanks for the forum
You went Li-Ion for <$700?
Crystalyte NiMH is already $1000!
Could you imagine Crystalyte Li-Ion?! Easily Double $700!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

w00t!
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Old 08-13-07, 11:07 PM
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Yeah I did alot of research before buying. I already knew about Brushless VS Brushed motors. But I talked to an old timer that has been dealing with these kits for a long time and he said they were all made in the same town in China, I dont know if this is true or not but all the designs are the same all the way down to the speed controller.

Anyways this is where I found the batteries.
Foxx LiFePo4 36v10a Pak w/Cheetah charger & BMS SHIPPED $362.00
http://www.atenenergy.biz/Foxx%20Specs.htm
Have to contact them, you can also order the 36V 20ah but they are $674 ea shipped w charger.
So far the batteries are great! Incredibly light supposedly they are as good as Sealed Lead Acid 20Ah because of the BMS (battery management system).

I will get some pics in the morning.. Dont expect to see a super cycle or anything lol I just threw it on an old Mtn Bike
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Old 08-14-07, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by bikefreaks View Post
Yeah I did alot of research before buying. I already knew about Brushless VS Brushed motors. But I talked to an old timer that has been dealing with these kits for a long time and he said they were all made in the same town in China, I dont know if this is true or not but all the designs are the same all the way down to the speed controller.

Anyways this is where I found the batteries.
Foxx LiFePo4 36v10a Pak w/Cheetah charger & BMS SHIPPED $362.00
http://www.atenenergy.biz/Foxx%20Specs.htm
Have to contact them, you can also order the 36V 20ah but they are $674 ea shipped w charger.
So far the batteries are great! Incredibly light supposedly they are as good as Sealed Lead Acid 20Ah because of the BMS (battery management system).

I will get some pics in the morning.. Dont expect to see a super cycle or anything lol I just threw it on an old Mtn Bike
That sounds like a good deal for those batteries, BMS and charger. Have you got them already? 'Hope the guy asking about 36v 10Ah lithium sees that link...
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How good is this for weather? Rain Storms? Snow?
And is it bad to connect, and disconnect the battery from the bike daily? As in a commute situation, where I would take the battery with me? Thanks!
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Old 08-15-07, 11:45 PM
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Is there a power on/off switch on the controller?

Also, is there a second on/off emergency switch on the handlebar? What would happen when you hit it? Does it cause an electric discharge that locks the hub?
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Old 08-15-07, 11:55 PM
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Is it a pedal start?
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Old 08-18-07, 12:42 AM
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sorry been busy riding my bike!

ha no its weatherproof, I havent taken it swimming but I did wash it lol.

Yes I take it into work to charge the pack everyday it has a plug so it doesnt wear out or anything.

Yes it starts as soon as you twist the throttle and no nothing locks up.

sorry I did not reply sooner. I have been riding home from work, then riding til dark and coming home tired, but seeing alot of new places and having more fun than I have had in years.

Its wierd how a simple thing like this can change your whole outlook on things.
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Old 08-18-07, 04:22 AM
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ha no its weatherproof, I havent taken it swimming but I did wash it lol.

Yes I take it into work to charge the pack everyday it has a plug so it doesnt wear out or anything.

Yes it starts as soon as you twist the throttle and no nothing locks up.

sorry I did not reply sooner. I have been riding home from work, then riding til dark and coming home tired, but seeing alot of new places and having more fun than I have had in years.

Its wierd how a simple thing like this can change your whole outlook on things.
You have me grinning ear to ear here - just pleased to see how happy you are with the kit. Fifty miles is an excellent range. I wonder if I could get hold of these things here in the UK? Sounds like you're having outstanding fun for a moderate amount of money.
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Old 09-26-07, 07:06 PM
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bikefreaks...

i think it's great that you came up with that combination of battery and motor.

I live 16 miles from where I work and I am hoping to buy a motor and batteries to make the trip, rather than going on pedal power the whole way (which I don't feel up to doing every day) or driving. I want to buy the foxx batteries and the goldenmotor.com kit. We will see how it turns out for me.

The listed price on ampedbikes.com is now $340 after shipping, not $285.
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Dunno if he still reads bf.net but bikefreaks, can you tell me how long it took before you got your fox batteries from Aten Energy? Thanks!
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Old 10-21-07, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by bikefreaks View Post
Yeah I did alot of research before buying. I already knew about Brushless VS Brushed motors. But I talked to an old timer that has been dealing with these kits for a long time and he said they were all made in the same town in China, I dont know if this is true or not but all the designs are the same all the way down to the speed controller.
yes, i also have one of these kits, the hub is a different color but all other components in the kit are identical to the one you bought. i got it local (New Zealand) for $NZ500 ($US370) including 36v SLA pack and it goes great. I do find the rim a bit low in quality, but hey..........
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Old 10-28-07, 05:18 PM
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Talking

I am seriously considering this GoldenMotor.com kit. I've been researching electric bikes for a few days now and have a few questions here.

It says 500W 36Volt Motor. 500W seems like a decent number to me. If I would match this up with a 48 Volt battery pack, would this get me to 35mph or so and would the motor and controller handle it? The controller says it is intelligent..
Would it have good range? Also, would the lithium batteries from atenenergy.biz plug right into the controler, nothing else needed? I'm beginning to think this is the right kit for me.
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Old 10-28-07, 11:33 PM
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Awesome! What kind of quality is the rim/spokes? It is interesting...all of these things come from China but I cannot buy any of them here I can only buy a 350 watt/48 volt motor, nothing faster and the quality of these things is questionable. I need to find a place where I can buy "export quality" for these things. Would you mind sharing the name of the city where it is made?
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Old 10-29-07, 07:13 PM
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On the goldenmotor.com forums, some people are reporting serious quality problems with goldenmotor.com's motors (ones that were shipped outside of Asia).

See the forum, http://www.goldenmotor.com/SMF
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Yup, that's where buying from ampedbikes.com has it's advantages. Being in the US you get your stuff a lot faster then if it's shipped from China (goldenmotor.com), and if something's wrong you get better/faster service.
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