chvid

Rapattack...I would try a new approach.

a.) Your motor is good - it runs when supplied with electricity via 2 wires. Therefore it is a brushed motor. It will be cheap to get a new controller and throttle which will work with the bike...your controller seems to be erroneously feeding electricity to the motor, when the throttle is off, OR...the throttle is jammed so it can't fully "unthrottle" - perhaps by rubbing along your V-brake caliper?

b.) You can get a new brushed controller for under 50 bucks from ebay seller "ecrazyman" - a.k.a. Shenzen Sucteam, shipped from China. It will be easy to connect a new throttle as well. That will fix your problems. I bought one from them and it works great.

The motor is bound to work with any old brushed controller, and they are cheap, as long as it has the right nominal voltage spec, and it has a suitable low voltage cutoff for your battery.

rapattack

Yeah but the battery runs out quick and the seat is not working either. I will look at costs if i lose the case with Fair Trade or whatever. I don't plan on losing. I will get this person for his dancing around and pissing me off for two months. Legally ofcourse :0)
Anyway i am on a pension and money is tight so i don't want to spend money unless i have to. Thanks for thinking of me though. I appreciate it!

miro13car

that should serve, this story as a warning to all who wants to buy on EBay instead phisical bike shop.
Interesting Googling name of this bike do not bring one USA bicycle shop which sells them.
I always wonder how easly people will spend $20,000 plus for a car and would not spend at least 3000 dollars on decent ebike like E+ MADE IN USA which will last. Especially if they want to commute on them.
There are Chinese brands which don't ask me to name /poc/ and there are brand names like NORCO made in China QC controlled environment factories.
There are 2 different animals.Chinese brands in their swet shops use cheap, cheap parts.
MC

dumbass 

Well that's your opinion and you have a right to it no matter weather right or wrong. Yes there are individuals on Ebay that are dishonest but the vast majority are honest and supply good product. The problem is Ebay does a poor job controling their site. IT is to dificult to make a complaint and the value of the complaint is extreamly limited. That's why I always recommend people use a good consumer credit card like American Express. If I ever have a problem I contact them and they pull the funds from the supplier. Not the supplier has to chase you instead of you chasing them.

As for a $3000 bike not everyone has $3000 to spend on a bike. I have gone to my local BS bike shop that sells those $3000 bike you talk about and I was wondering what makes a $45 water bottle holder so great anyway. It does the same thing me $2 bottle holder does (holds a water bottle). Oh, that's right I can tell everyone I got it at the Hot **** Bike Shop and paid $45 for it. I think that's about the same as your $3000 bike. Most of us are interested in getting from point "A" to point "B" and we could care less about a snake skin seat cover. I have ridden $200 and $300 bikes all my life and have been very happy with them. I have the means to pay $3000+ for a bike with no problem but I fail to see why I should. I am sure it is lighter and better balanced but for $3000 it should come to me when I whistle. But that's just my opinion.

rapattack

Yes that is the thing I don't have $3000. I am on a disability pension. I don't know anyone that can afford that. I can't drive because of the disability and am being extremely brave to attempt cycling at all after a year and a half of physiotherapy and now working out at home. Also Sydney has built a lot of bike paths in the last year and i am hoping i don't have to ride on a rode at all as i am not well enough to see what cars are doing as well. Concentration is crap.
Yeah I have only had one other person rip me off on ebay and luckily that was for a very small amount. I did take a risk with this character that sold me the bike in that i should have lodged a complaint much earlier and not believed his smooth lies. I don't know if i even believed him. I think was just too busy and well it is hard to tell when someone is being a shiester via emails . I tried to get his phone number to talk that way but he was so evasive!
Anyway i have no credit card so in future will go with Paypal as they changed the withdrawal or is it a transfer fee to nil. I didn't like that if you had funds in ebay and it was under $150 then it would cost something to transfer to you bank account. Now that fee is gone...thats great!

Yes the sweat shop is of concern to me. I wish there was a list of chinese companies that are suss that way! I know of many sweat shop outfits in other countries concerning other types of goods and i tell everyone not to buy from them. I can't afford that stuff anyway. I was brought up around sweatshops and worked in them as a child. Sewing clothes and working at markets. So i know how it goes. It is a wonder that i am educated at all! At least my experiences are no where near as bad as places like India.
Anyway should be spying around Matraville today i hope to see if this bugger has a warehouse there. A friend should be coming otherwise i will go on foot during the week. I am a tough person and sick of waiting for friends that say they will help me out.

ausGeoff

Firstly, this is of little importance to someone who lives in Australia (such as the OP and myself). There are actually other civilised countries beyond America's borders — believe it or not. There's also several brands of electric bikes — excellent quality bikes — that aren't sold on the US market.

The price of the bike is not really the question here. Of course if you're silly enough to spend $3,000 on an electric bike you wouldn't expect to have any problems with it... duh. And do you seriously expect someone living in Australia to pay for the importing costs to buy a bike simply because it's made in the US? Dream on my friend.

It's all well and good to talk casually about spending three grand on a bike, but you're forgetting that people living in other countries don't necessarily have the discretionary income that Americans seem to have. But, like a lot of Americans, you think that money solves all problems. If something's not working, just throw dollars at it! Including electric bikes apparently?

Oh dear; the good old "made in China" snobbery is alive and well I see! Just because a bike is made in China in no way guarantees it's inferior in any way. I agree that there definitely is some rubbish produced in Asian sweat shops, but please don't make the false assumption that all bikes with a Made In China sticker are rubbish. And conversely, don't assume that every bike made in the US is an engineering masterpiece!

—Cheers.

rapattack

Yeah almost everything in Australia is made in China these days. I agree i have bought many things that are fine.
I never throw money at something in order to get something better either not just because my wallet is very slim he he.
So no one is USA sells this bike. Maybe they don't import as much Chinese stuff as we do in Oz? Well anyway the cost of bring of bike here from the US is way out of my reach so i will try and see about things when i actually do get the refund. Will report on the latest when i have time as there is always so much detail!

dumbass 

It's hard to say for sure that the bike isn't sold somewhere in the US. Many thing s that are imported have different names on them in different contries. I remember my GF in Puerto Rico had a car that was sold only on the island (at least by that name). And Puerto Rico is a common wealth of the US so you would think it would have had the same name.

rapattack

Yes they changed the name/brand on products from China all the time depending on where they sell it. There is a movement out there that products are to be more open about the source of the product. Trouble is too there is a problem here in Australia where the product says it is Australian made but maybe it is just assembled in Australia. The components are not. I am speaking generally of food and other products. Bikes i don't know if this happens but nothing is impossible. I get there and ask. With food there is a term called 'food miles' which means that the further the food has travelled the more cost to the environment it is. The movement is saying 'buy local'. I prefer this but i am an 'organic' only buyer of food and some of my food comes from overseas or out of state. Just an example of what i mean about bikes too. :0)

miro13car

Very well that it spurred such discussion.
Again,
there are brand names like Norco which are made in China, BUT they are manufactured in stritct QC environment just using cHINESE LABOUR, procuders of manufacture are the same like USA, Germany, Australia.
And there are Chinese brands often manufactured in horrible lack of any QC standrds with cheap not tested parts in hurry to make money.
Believe it or not , old "you got what you pay for" is valid for bicycle also.
and believe quality must cost money.
Who buys those BMW and Hondas if they can have KIA for much less.
They buy Hondas for quality. but they cost more.
POC SOLD IN wALMARTS , department stores and Canadian Tires sourced from China only give bad opinion of ebike, after seeing and trying this many people think- that's ebike?
MC

rapattack

Guess what i got my money back from this person!!!!! Yippee. I won. Persistence pays off people. So if anyone thinks that you can't get a refund from an ebayer that sells you a dud product then ask me how it is done.
On another note it looks like i might get a kit and convert another bike that a friend found on the street on a trash day!

dumbass 

Glad to hear your victory.

Be sure to do your homework on the kits. And be damn sure that bike is worth the efford and money to motorize. To me it looks a little big for you to be pulling up/down stairs. rember you have t odeal with your batteries too. So think about how you can mount the batteries so they can be quickly and easily removed to making carrying the bike easier. Remember that while higher voltages maybe great in many ways but the higher the voltage the larger and heavier the battery get. Bob

dumbass 

Here's a setup you might want to consider. I know of a few people who are using "Cute" motors and I haven't heard anything bad about them yet. I don't know what the cost would be in Ossie land but it has to be less then most kits. https://www.bmsbattery.com/index.php?...roducts_id=109 https://www.bmsbattery.com/index.php?...index&cPath=25 Bob

rapattack

Thanks so much I am very happy this worked out after so much stress.

Yep i posted on another part of this forum about a kit and other things i am looking at! Yes i have seen a few things posted about batteries etc. The weight etc. I am taking my time now and not jumping quickly on anything.

What is the difference between a cute motor and normal kits?

dumbass 

Assuming your talking about the info in the link I gave you... The kits are for complete setups. motor, controller, throttle, brake handles with cable leads and the motor is already mounted into a new rim. So all you have to do is put a tire on the rim and install all the parts. If I remember correctly the kit also may have a battery with it. But I would email them and confirm everything I am saying to be sure. The "Cute" motor is just that a motor only. You would take your existing rim to a bike shop and they would install the botor in the rim. Locally to me this would cost about $30 to $50. Then you supply your own controller, throttle, brake handles with cable leads and battery pack. Not a good idea for you!! There are a lot of great kits out there but there are a lot more bad kits out there too. not to say Ebay is a bad place to buy from but it's not the best ether. You can also check Amozon which is like Ebay but you have a sellers actual name and can check if he is working from his garage or if he has a real brick and motor shop. I just ordered some parts and was able to go to the companies actual website and send them emails and talk to a tech for more info. BMS is in China though but it's a company that a lot of people are buying from. Cute motors are made in China (as most are).

rapattack

I will look everything over when i have some $$$ so thanks for this latest information. There is a lot to consider!

Sangesf

I bought that same exact bike for my son for Christmas, it was the biggest piece of crap, I've ever seen...
It literally broke in half about 3 months later.
Be glad you don't have it any more.

rapattack

Wow that was a bad experience for you having the bike break in half. Yeah i am glad to be rid of it. Glad that my pestering this idiot got the job done because for a long time it looked like i was going to be stuck with the damn thing