Schwinn Tailwind and Searcher $999, good deal?
Just found out that Performance Bike has Schwinn Tailwind and Searcher priced at $999. Maybe they're 2010 models. But $999 still seems to be a good price at this point. Comments?
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Probably a good price. I'd try one out before buying though.
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I wonder of they bought a bunch of them and just have way too much stock and need to move them..
I always thought they were WAAAAY overpriced for a basic electric bike with a cool battery. |
My intent use is for commuting. My one way commute is 30-ish miles and have 2000 feet elevation change. Currently I use a road bike (skinny tire/light weight) to commute. It takes me 2 hours one way. Due to the length of the commute and fatigue, I can only do it twice a week.
So my objective is two folds. 1. reduce the commute time 2. enable me to commute by bike everyday (or at least 3-4 days a week) I'm looking at Schwinn Searcher. Looks like it's basically a hybrid bike + battery pack+ the motorized front wheel. It doesn't say how much weight it has. I'll guestimate it at 40-50 lbs. With my own weight (170lb), will Schwinn Searcher meet my objectives? |
That's an impressive commute motorider. From what city to what city if you don't mind me asking. I'm in the East Bay too.
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From Castro Valley to Sunnyvale :-)
Do you think Schwinn Search E8 can help me here? I'm not familiar with e-bikes and if I end up draining the batteries and have to haul a 50lb bike uphill, it doesn't sound fun.
Originally Posted by edcastrovalley
(Post 12613260)
That's an impressive commute motorider. From what city to what city if you don't mind me asking. I'm in the East Bay too.
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Originally Posted by motorider
(Post 12612613)
My intent use is for commuting. My one way commute is 30-ish miles and have 2000 feet elevation change. Currently I use a road bike (skinny tire/light weight) to commute. It takes me 2 hours one way. Due to the length of the commute and fatigue, I can only do it twice a week.
So my objective is two folds. 1. reduce the commute time 2. enable me to commute by bike everyday (or at least 3-4 days a week) I'm looking at Schwinn Searcher. Looks like it's basically a hybrid bike + battery pack+ the motorized front wheel. It doesn't say how much weight it has. I'll guestimate it at 40-50 lbs. With my own weight (170lb), will Schwinn Searcher meet my objectives? of course the good thing is you have hills in one direction...but the good thing is you have a downslope in the other direction.....this basically means that if you pedal assist with the electric , on the hilly parts, you should be able to do the 2nd part of the trip very easily by cruising down hills without any electric assist. I would say you would need a 20 A/h lifepo4 battery to accomplish your needs in a enjoyable manner in which you arent constantly worrying about running out of battery power . luckily you are a person with low bodyweight...so that makes your goals much easier to acheive. |
Originally Posted by jethro56
(Post 12612072)
Probably a good price. I'd try one out before buying though.
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Originally Posted by Sangesf
(Post 12612180)
I wonder of they bought a bunch of them and just have way too much stock and need to move them..
I always thought they were WAAAAY overpriced for a basic electric bike with a cool battery. |
You've saved alot of money. Probably need to triple the battery capacity though. Be sure and post back on your adventures.
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Originally Posted by jethro56
(Post 12614470)
You've saved alot of money. Probably need to triple the battery capacity though. Be sure and post back on your adventures.
My commute is 1o miles each way - assuming a charger at my office, I don't see a problem. Am I missing something? Eric |
The valencia you mentioned has a much larger battery. Maybe the schwinn is super efficent but 24V and 5Ah is a very small battery. I didn't know what kind of range and speed you required. It may suit your needs. I read a review of the Bike and 2 years ago Schwinn was asking 3200 for the bike so you did good. Post back on how it does.
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Originally Posted by motorider
(Post 12613535)
From Castro Valley to Sunnyvale :-)
Do you think Schwinn Search E8 can help me here? I'm not familiar with e-bikes and if I end up draining the batteries and have to haul a 50lb bike uphill, it doesn't sound fun. |
Usually those commercial bikes are weak. Still better to build your own I think.
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This one is $2000 but it's pretty much one of the best commercial kits out there.
http://epluselectricbike.com/buy-bik...conversion-kit |
Originally Posted by morph999
(Post 12622564)
This one is $2000 but it's pretty much one of the best commercial kits out there.
http://epluselectricbike.com/buy-bik...conversion-kit |
That kit is not worth $2k especially with nimh batteries..
If it had lifepo4 and 15ah then it would be worth it. |
They answered people's request and they now have LIPO kits but they are like $2500 for it. I paid about $1200 - $1300 total for my crystalyte with lifepo4 kit. The E+ kits are so convenient. If I had $2000 to spend, I'd buy one.
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$1200 for a LiFePO4 kit is a lot! We carry bikes equipped with LiFePO4 batteries for less than $1200.
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Originally Posted by morph999
(Post 12622564)
This one is $2000 but it's pretty much one of the best commercial kits out there.
http://epluselectricbike.com/buy-bik...conversion-kit I purchased a 1000 watt/48 volt complete kit off ebay , with lifepo4 20A/h battery for $750 shipped . Now I did have to buy another brushless controller for $129 because the stock one burnt up...but even then thats a total of $830.... this kit pulls me 32mph { and I weigh 270 lbs** and does fine on the steepest roads in my area, as long as I give pedal assist..... why would anyone spend $2000 on a kit ? |
Originally Posted by kiloton_ebikes
(Post 12625932)
$1200 for a LiFePO4 kit is a lot! We carry bikes equipped with LiFePO4 batteries for less than $1200.
I got my lifepo4 kit for $750 delivered off ebay....48 volt/ 1000 watt / 20 A/h.... I have to wonder , in a few years, if these kits will come down significanlty in price. The lifepo4 batterys certainly have. |
Be aware of the range of one battery charge on the Tailwind. Whatever Schwinn says it is divide by 2 for real world. We have Schwinn World GSE which are supposed to get 40 miles but we generally get 20+ depending on the surface type; paved will get us close to 30 but gravel will drop to 22 or so.
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Richard how much are you selling yur world gse for.
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Originally Posted by jethro56
(Post 12615857)
The valencia you mentioned has a much larger battery. Maybe the schwinn is super efficent but 24V and 5Ah is a very small battery. I didn't know what kind of range and speed you required. It may suit your needs. I read a review of the Bike and 2 years ago Schwinn was asking 3200 for the bike so you did good. Post back on how it does.
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The special point of the Schwinn Tailwind, is that it has the SCiB battery from toshiba..
In TEN MINUTES, it will charge to 90%!!! No other battery chemistry can achieve that.. (other than nanotech LiPoly, but those are dangerous) Imagine having 4 of those batteries... 20ah charged in 10 minutes to 18ah... You could concievably go 30 miles, charge in 10 min, go another 27 miles, charge in 10min, etc... At 20mph, you could travel 300 in a day, easily! |
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