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Touring GPS under $150
Looking at some of the Lezyne and similar GPSs, and my main concern is battery life. What's got the longest life with HR, cadence and preferably Bluetooth to the Android Strava app under $150 base price?
Ideally, I'd like enough life for two or more days between charges, but I'll probably need a power bank for my phone anyway. |
Have you tried using your Android phone GPS with an app such as Osmand or Maps.me?
Both apps (as well as others) work with pre-downloaded maps and your phone's GPS signal only (no cell signal required). |
What's a "Touring GPS"? Sounds like something you'd use for navigation.
There are quite a number of GPS units that will record your position/track/ride. Some of the cheaper ones will let you load a route and follow the line on the screen and provide basic turn notifications. http://www.lezyne.com/product-gps-supergpsY10.php
Originally Posted by KD5NRH
(Post 19593680)
Ideally, I'd like enough life for two or more days between charges,
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Phones can work fine, but yesterday my Samsung S4's display said it used 22% of its power in a 70 minute ride in which I tracked only speed, distance, and route and had all data turned off. The battery is a few months old.
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Originally Posted by njkayaker
(Post 19595993)
You probably want to indicate how long you are riding for.
I'd like to see 12+ hours of active battery life, to be able to do two 6 hour days between charges. Some leeway in that is handy, as ideal (so I want to keep riding) or terrible (so I still need to go farther to get to a good overnight spot) conditions keep me in the saddle for a while longer.
Originally Posted by philbob57
(Post 19596040)
Phones can work fine, but yesterday my Samsung S4's display said it used 22% of its power in a 70 minute ride in which I tracked only speed, distance, and route and had all data turned off. The battery is a few months old.
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Originally Posted by KD5NRH
(Post 19596357)
The Lezyne and others use plain LCDs that don't eat up so much power, but none of them specify a battery life.
Originally Posted by njkayaker
(Post 19595993)
Originally Posted by KD5NRH
(Post 19596357)
I'd like to see 12+ hours of active battery life, to be able to do two 6 hour days between charges. Some leeway in that is handy, as ideal (so I want to keep riding) or terrible (so I still need to go farther to get to a good overnight spot) conditions keep me in the saddle for a while longer.
Depending on the size of the "power bank" you are considering, it shouldn't be too hard to recharge (the battery isn't likely to be more than 1000mAh). Note that keeping your phone off is something to consider (especially, if you are in a area with no or poor cell reception). |
Originally Posted by KD5NRH
(Post 19596357)
The Lezyne and others use plain LCDs that don't eat up so much power, but none of them specify a battery life.
The Super GPS states 24 hrs. but is the priciest. I knew a guy who did a self-supported NYC to SF tour, used an iPhone to navigate, plus a solar cell pad on the rear panniers to charge a separate cell phone battery, then used the battery overnight to charge the iPhone. |
Originally Posted by njkayaker
(Post 19596431)
You aren't looking hard enough. The link I posted earlier says "22h runtime". That might not include navigation.
Note that keeping your phone off is something to consider (especially, if you are in a area with no or poor cell reception). |
Check out Bryton Ryder 530E
About $150.00 |
Originally Posted by KD5NRH
(Post 19601442)
Not sure how I missed that. Guess I was expecting it to be a big bragging point, considering how bad GPS battery life used to be. (Had a Lowrance GM100 back in the day that ate 4AAs in about 3 hours, and both a Garmin and a Magellan that would eat two in less than two hours.)
Originally Posted by KD5NRH
(Post 19601442)
That's the main reason I want the GPS function elsewhere. OTOH, airplane mode battery life is pretty darn good with the screen off, so if I can find an app that will deactivate airplane mode, sync email, check voicemail, and Facebook Messenger, then turn airplane mode back on, at configurable intervals or set times, that might be a good option so I don't forget to power up and check at rest stops.
The facebook apps are notoriously horrible for battery life. |
I picked up a Cateye Stealth 50 pretty cheap and it lasts all day, has a reasonably large display, has Ant+ and uploads to Strava, but not through your phone (no bluetooth). Have to upload using your computer, but it is very simple and works well. Can get one for well under $100 (I think I paid around $50 on ebay for mine).
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my Lezyne super gps will easily last at least 18 hours. this is using their proprietary heart rate monitor, speed/cadence sensor, and having my phone synced to the unit for directions.
it works pretty good. ive been able to charge it also using a very small power bank from 2% back up to 80 percent while in use in about an hour. |
The Edge 25, which is now on sale for $120, or $140 with cadence sensor, claims 8 hours.
I wish you wouldn't keep praising the Lezyne, srestrepo. I want one, but it doesn't fit into my plans right now...I can feel my resistance weakening....:) |
Sigma Rox 10. You can probably find one on sale for around $150. Pretty basic gps nav function, but it works ok for me.
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Originally Posted by dperreno
(Post 19609271)
I picked up a Cateye Stealth 50 pretty cheap and it lasts all day, has a reasonably large display, has Ant+ and uploads to Strava, but not through your phone (no bluetooth). Have to upload using your computer, but it is very simple and works well. Can get one for well under $100 (I think I paid around $50 on ebay for mine).
Looks like unless something happens to be on deep discount right when I have the cash available, I'll probably end up with the Lezyne Macro Loaded package. 18+ hours of battery life should handle any two day stretch of a tour, and more likely three days if necessary. At this point, I'm just trying to build up the full touring setup one or two things at a time. Not sure where that will fall on the overall list, but for the moment I've been rebuilding my old camping kit, and changing over to hammock based rather than tent based. |
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Originally Posted by KD5NRH
(Post 19593680)
.... What's got the longest life with HR, cadence and preferably Bluetooth to the Android Strava app under $150 base price?
..... If it doesn't insult you, I suggest you consider thinking about what you really want on tour, and go without what you don't, saving both front end cost, and battery life. |
Gotta say I adore my Wahoo bolt. It is awesome
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Originally Posted by KD5NRH
(Post 19593680)
Looking at some of the Lezyne and similar GPSs, and my main concern is battery life. What's got the longest life with HR, cadence and preferably Bluetooth to the Android Strava app under $150 base price?
Ideally, I'd like enough life for two or more days between charges, but I'll probably need a power bank for my phone anyway. Other makers GPSes are worse for long rides on unfamiliar roads, with worse or non-existent
The newer 810 sometimes crashes based on what's on the map, with roundabouts a common problem. The 800 can crash on long rides, although splitting them up into smaller files and joining them later using fittools.com avoids that. I tried an ELEMNT and returned it. The Bolt is smaller and costs less, but uses the same software. While the software may now be past its teething pains, Wahoo made the wise business decision to rely on users' smart phones where they leverage software written by other people to do things like routing and mapping and I wouldn't want to rely on that with cellular internet access not 100% reliable and battery life poor. You can't see cycling roads on the map without zooming in, and can't pan while zoomed in. Street names aren't included on maps so you can't recognize different parts of long roads you're familiar with. There's no routing in the ELEMNT. Before the ELEMNT and 800 I used a Garmin Edge 500 with bread crumbs but no maps. I upgraded because I made too many wrong turns on long rides where multiple roads came together nearby and the street signs weren't readable, or I took a circuitous route getting to a food stop. I also tried an 810 (newer garmins have Bluetooth which makes them more attractive), but had a software crash on my first ride and lost data within the first week. The Edge Touring and Touring Plus are the 800 hardware with different firmware that omits things like support for a power meter. |
Originally Posted by seeker333
(Post 19595972)
Have you tried using your Android phone GPS with an app such as Osmand or Maps.me?
Both apps (as well as others) work with pre-downloaded maps and your phone's GPS signal only (no cell signal required). |
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