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Old 08-29-17, 10:32 AM   #1
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Garmin Edge 1030

Did anyone expect this coming right now. curious since I have been waiting on a new computer to replace my aging Edge 810

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/567991

Appears to be about the same size as the older Edge 1000, thought they were trying to downsize the entire line if it was to follow the sizing of the 800/810 to 820 trend. Was hoping more for a 800/810 size with a bigger screen but not 1000 big.
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Did anyone expect this coming right now. curious since I have been waiting on a new computer to replace my aging Edge 810

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/567991

Appears to be about the same size as the older Edge 1000, thought they were trying to downsize the entire line if it was to follow the sizing of the 800/810 to 820 trend. Was hoping more for a 800/810 size with a bigger screen but not 1000 big.
Meh, it's ginormous, highly / ridiculously priced and Garmin never gets touchscreens right. The Edge 1000 was plagued with touchscreen problems, the Edge 820 is plagued with touchscreen problems ect.

Like you I was hoping for something smaller and without a touchscreen. Guess I'll wait for the Edge 530, 540, 550 or whatever they call the next version of it.
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Did anyone expect this coming right now. curious since I have been waiting on a new computer to replace my aging Edge 810

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/567991

Appears to be about the same size as the older Edge 1000, thought they were trying to downsize the entire line if it was to follow the sizing of the 800/810 to 820 trend. Was hoping more for a 800/810 size with a bigger screen but not 1000 big.
Beware buying 1st generation ANYTHING from Garmin (or Wahoo on occasion). I think right now the only new generation cycling unit in the Garmin line that works reliably is the 520. Judging by the buzz I read on the web, Garmin just sucks at identifying problems and pushing updates.

Note that I was pretty sold on my 810 for the 18 mos. I used it, despite occasional freezes and crashes, including a current ongoing series of touchscreen freezes. Tired of having to stab repeatedly at a touch screen I finally said FI and bought a Wahoo Bolt.

If you really, really need the ability to load a set of maps other then what comes on the device, get a Garmin. If not I'd recommend either a Bolt or the larger Elemnt. The B&W screen is actually easier to read, so you give little away to color, IME. Plus setup was just painless on the app for the Wahoo.

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Believe me when I say I have been through the Garmin hellhole they call firmware and Updating. I wasn't planning on jumping on the first batch anyway, learned that lesson a long time ago. It was just a surprise to see it for sale this morning.
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Beware buying 1st generation ANYTHING from Garmin (or Wahoo on occasion). I think right now the only new generation cycling unit in the Garmin line that works reliably is the 520. Judging by the buzz I read on the web, Garmin just sucks at identifying problems and pushing updates.

Note that I was pretty sold on my 810 for the 18 mos. I used it, despite occasional freezes and crashes, including a current ongoing series of touchscreen freezes. Tired of having to stab repeatedly at a touch screen I finally said FI and bought a Wahoo Bolt.

If you really, really need the ability to load a set of maps other then what comes on the device, get a Garmin. If not I'd recommend either a Bolt or the larger Elemnt. The B&W screen is actually easier to read, so you give little away to color, IME. Plus setup was just painless on the app for the Wahoo.

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Wouldn't the 1030 be a 2nd generation 1000?

Anyway, here's a complete review. https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2017/08/...th-review.html
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Believe me when I say I have been through the Garmin hellhole they call firmware and Updating. I wasn't planning on jumping on the first batch anyway, learned that lesson a long time ago. It was just a surprise to see it for sale this morning.
Yea, I got a note from Clever Training about it being up for sale this morning.

Best wishes to the brave folk who are early adapters. The proprietary battery expansion (and the USB port being moved to prevent riding charging with a cheap lipstick charger) alone makes me not want it all else aside even if I was in the market.
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The (large) size might help those of us who don't want to use reading glasses (or bifocal sunglasses).


$129 for a booster battery? The marketing department must have borrowed some of the programmers' weed. I got one for free with my last cell phone upgrade with more capacity!


No, not planning to buy one unless/until my old Garmin dies. And I'll see who's updated their firmware last when that happens (Garmin, Wahoo, ?)
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and the USB port being moved to prevent riding charging with a cheap lipstick charger)
The port is on the back (like it is on the 810). Only the clearance between the back and the handlebar would prevent the use of the port for charging.
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The port is on the back (like it is on the 810). Only the clearance between the back and the handlebar would prevent the use of the port for charging.
Edge 1000 had the port conveniently (for riding and charging) on the bottom, hence "changed" IMHO.

People with full out-front mounts are boned. I suppose the mounts that put the computer above the stem-face-plate might work. Still annoying though.
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Edge 1000 had the port conveniently (for riding and charging) on the bottom, hence "changed" IMHO.
I don't think everybody liked that position.

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It might work. And a right-angle cable might help.
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The (large) size might help those of us who don't want to use reading glasses (or bifocal sunglasses).


$129 for a booster battery? The marketing department must have borrowed some of the programmers' weed. I got one for free with my last cell phone upgrade with more capacity!


No, not planning to buy one unless/until my old Garmin dies. And I'll see who's updated their firmware last when that happens (Garmin, Wahoo, ?)
The Bolt (and I presume the Elemnt) allows you to use the up/down buttons on the R side to zoom the displays and maps. If you find you only use 3 metrics, speed-riding time-avg. speed, as example, you configure those then zoom in the display. Here's 3 photo's, one of a screen set to 7 metrics, one of that same screen but zoomed in to 3 metrics, a 3rd of a separate screen set with only 3 metrics and not zoomed.

FWIW, Wahoo just pushed the 2nd update in 6 weeks, adding structured workouts. I 've seen 1 update for the 810 in a year and it didn't fix any of the crashing issues I was having.

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I am one of those that ordered it right away to replace my 710 which has been dying a slow death for the last year. It is held together with superglue and electrical tape. If I get 1/2 of the 8 years out of the 1030 that I got out of the 710 then I will be happy.
I would have waited longer, but I have a 200k ride coming up in October and I am skeptical that my 710 will still be "functioning" by then.
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The Edge 1000 was recently being put on fire sales, so an update was inevitable.

xx30 is an interesting jump, but not surprising for their flagship device.
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The Edge 1000 was recently being put on fire sales, so an update was inevitable.

xx30 is an interesting jump, but not surprising for their flagship device.
...speaking of updates....My Edge1000 got a firmware update this morning (v14.20). I'm pleasantly surprised at Garmin's attitude towards the device's longevity.
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Come to think of it, this is an interesting time of year for new product introduction in the bike industry. Don't new cycling Garmins (and other GPS units, as well), usually come out in April-June?
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Come to think of it, this is an interesting time of year for new product introduction in the bike industry. Don't new cycling Garmins (and other GPS units, as well), usually come out in April-June?
What was also odd....the 1030 was never teased or shown at CES or any other electronics show. It was just quietly dropped onto the market.
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$600!!!

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$600!!!

Wow.
Yeah... I think it's about $100 overpriced. On the bright side, I saw Competitive Cyclist is selling the Edge 1000 for $375 on Amazon..

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I think it is $300 to $350 overpriced.
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The 1030 is a very well designed device - garmin has responded to most of the critically frequently asked for features - larger battery, external battery option and bigger screen. It has ticked all my requirements.

Apart from increasing the screen size I hope they have also been able to improve on the screen readability too - touch screens have always been duller in reality (without back light).

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The 1030 with external battery pack interests me, despite the price. Although my current Edge 520 is still working great, but with turn-by-turn navigation battery life isn't great for long distance rides. The 1030 should solve this problem, and the combination is also supposedly waterproof which is a big plus.
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The 1030 is a very well designed device - garmin has responded to most of the critically frequently asked for features - larger battery, external battery option and bigger screen. It has ticked all my requirements.

Apart from increasing the screen size I hope they have also been able to improve on the screen readability too - touch screens have always been duller in reality (without back light).
I'd rather have fewer and well designed features that don't require an external battery, on a unit that can navigate a 10-12 hr ride on internal batteries. Pretty much EVERY GPS unit and Smartphone can take an external $10 lipstick battery if required. I'd rather not have extra crap on the h-bar.
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I just bought an Edge 1000 and I'm glad I saved the $200 on the bundle. The 1030 doesn't really appear to do anything the 1000 doesn't already do. The turn by turn navigation on the 1000 works great for me. If anything, I'm a bit disappointed that they waited 3+ years to release a new model and it doesn't appear to do anything special.
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The 1030 doesn't really appear to do anything the 1000 doesn't already do. The turn by turn navigation on the 1000 works great for me. If anything, I'm a bit disappointed that they waited 3+ years to release a new model and it doesn't appear to do anything special.
It doesn't appear to have any new hardware other than maybe a new screen and the proprietary battery pack charging contraption.

Most of the advances are software so they could have pushed all that to the Edge 1000 and continued to sell them. Not real sure what the average rider will gain by going with the 1030 over the 1000.

Previous model updates made sense. The Edge 520 upgrade from the 510 was noticeable. The 820 upgrade from the 810 was noticeable ect. The Edge 1030 is a bit odd to me. Not much different or improved based on what I see, from a hardware standpoint that is.

And the $600-$700 price is ridiculous... Anyone interested in the larger computers would be better served with the Edge 1000 (on sale for $375) or the Karoo (pre-order for $299).
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And the $600-$700 price is ridiculous... Anyone interested in the larger computers would be better served with the Edge 1000 (on sale for $375) or the Karoo (pre-order for $299).
It's $600 vs. $375. The Edge 1000 bundle still appears to be $500 everywhere, whereas the 1030 bundle is $700. Considering that there is no real marginal improvement, that $225 difference, which represents a 60% increase in price, seems entirely wasted to me. I was really worried, knowing that the 1000 is 3 years old and that the 1030 was coming out, that I'd have buyer's remorse. I'm happy to report that I have absolutely no qualms about not paying 60% more for basically no benefit.

Given my experience with Tomtom vs. Garmin's automobile GPS units, I would be extremely reluctant to trust any company besides Garmin when it comes to navigation. But for the navigation/turn by turn, GPS bike computers have no benefit as far as I'm concerned; a cell phone is perfectly capable of tracking a ride on Strava, just not for as long. The Karoo looks good, but I'd be concerned that the software would irritate me. Garmin has done a great job making their units user-friendly, although the bicycle product less so than the car product.

Oh and just to add, if the screen was bigger, I would be willing to pay more--quite a bit more. Especially with sunglasses on, reading/seeing the navigation screen easier would be worth the money for me, and I'm young and have perfect vision. I'd imagine for older people with weaker vision, they'd be even more willing.
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