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Rechargeable, and durable electronic insect repellant?
Does anybody happen to know of/use a rechargeable, and durable electronic insect repellent?
One that uses AA/AAA batteries would also work as I have a charger for those. While the chances of getting west nile fever are pretty low, it would really suck to be sick for that long. EDIT: Please let me know if electronic insect repellents simply do not work. I've never tried one. |
Permethrin.
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If they worked, the big guys would be marketing them. It's not that they can't. It's that they decided not to and the only reason is they can't demonstrate to their satisfaction that they work.
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with an onshore wind blowing through town, I find a stiff breeze works, well ...
maybe have a fan to keep the air moving? Or Ride Faster :lol: ... |
If you are trying to avoid repellent for some reason, this is an option too.
https://www.rei.com/c/mosquito-net-clothing I have used this sort of thing over shorts and short sleeves in a campsite, where the netting is touching your skin you can get bit but it really works pretty good. But a headnet gets in the way when you try to sample the food you are cooking. |
Thank you all for the suggestions.
It's unfortunate electronic repellents don't currently work. Eventually they will figure out a way to do it. I mainly wanted one to avoid putting any chemicals on my skin. I have a few canisters of sport deet bug spray, I'll just use that. It will only be when I'm hiking on Sundays so I doubt once a week usage will cause any harm. I'll probably get something natural when my current supply of bug spray runs out. |
I as well dislike repellants.
If I use one it is mostly on my clothing and hat. Of course you do have some on some of your skin but you don't use as much. |
What is the operating principle of this gadget?
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Originally Posted by AlexanderLS
(Post 20376883)
Thank you all for the suggestions.
It's unfortunate electronic repellents don't currently work. Eventually they will figure out a way to do it. I mainly wanted one to avoid putting any chemicals on my skin. I have a few canisters of sport deet bug spray, I'll just use that. It will only be when I'm hiking on Sundays so I doubt once a week usage will cause any harm. I'll probably get something natural when my current supply of bug spray runs out. |
As a former product manager of OFF! insect repellent, my recommendation is to use the least amount of Deet as possible and reapply as required. 15% deet will likely keep you pest free for 2+ hours. We all have different run times. But, make sure you apply it properly. Leave a spot open, the bugs will find it. Having said that, do not over spray. But rubbing it around, like you would a lotion and washing your hands is the best approach.
As some have said, Permetrhin is a good product, applied to clothes. . But, because it comes from plants does not mean it is not toxic. But, if you have bare skin, you will need a repellent. |
Originally Posted by debade
(Post 20387853)
As a former product manager of OFF! insect repellent, my recommendation is to use the least amount of Deet as possible and reapply as required. 15% deet will likely keep you pest free for 2+ hours. We all have different run times. But, make sure you apply it properly. Leave a spot open, the bugs will find it. Having said that, do not over spray. But rubbing it around, like you would a lotion and washing your hands is the best approach.
As some have said, Permetrhin is a good product, applied to clothes. . But, because it comes from plants does not mean it is not toxic. But, if you have bare skin, you will need a repellent. |
Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 20388143)
Thanks for weighing in, debade. Your logic is good, but are you saying Permethrin is toxic? You don't seem to be saying it is or isn't.
I am not sure that there would not be debate about the comments in this article by those that have deep knowledge but I think it is basically correct for our purposes. https://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/su...nd-peremethrin In my opinion, your goal should be to use as little repellent (and frankly any chemical) as you need. In the case of repellent applying to clothes lessens skin contact. Applying lower concentrations to your skin, lessens the amount that will be absorbed in your body. |
That's an artful dodge, because you said more with less. Thank you again.
The tick problem is really bad this year in New York State. I'm not in the habit of using repellent, and I think maybe I should this year. I like the idea of applying to clothes because it might be easier to talk my wife into it. She's more afraid of chemicals than I am. Also, we used permethrin heavily a couple of years ago when we got scabies, and she didn't complain about toxicity then. But we had a really serious problem to solve at the time. Scabies are terrible. Permethrin sounds reasonably safe. |
Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 20377802)
What is the operating principle of this gadget?
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It sometimes drives me crazy when in certain areas flying insects are buzzing around my face and at times it seems as if they're trying to crawl into my ears
I've used skin so soft from Avon. Very inexpensive and the link is for the one that uses synthesized plant oil. https://www.avon.com/product/skin-so...30-lotion-7894Copied from the REI website: IR3535Background: Developed in Germany by Merck in early 1980s; registered in U.S. in 1999. Chemical name: 3-[N-Butyl-N-acetyl]-aminopropionic acid, ethyl ester. Derived from the amino acid alanine. |
Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 20388217)
I like the idea of applying to clothes because it might be easier to talk my wife into it. She's more afraid of chemicals than I am.
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DEET or Picaridin for maximum protection.
PMD from lemon eucalyptus (Corymbia citriodora) extract is reportedly very effective. Check concentrations. Some folks say Picaridin and PMD are more pleasant to use than DEET. Permethrin is primarily useful for applying to clothing and other materials. It's applied directly to the skin only to kill scabies, chiggers, etc. The original Avon Skin So Soft had an unwarranted reputation for being an effective insect repellent that was exaggerated over time. Local outdoor theaters and entertainment venues provide it because it's safe, harmless and pretty much useless. But people believe it works and if they don't get bitten the illusion is reinforced. In fact they may have been bitten by mosquitoes but if they take effective antihistamines for allergies they'd probably never notice any reaction anyway. That doesn't mean they didn't get bitten or that the mosquito didn't transmit disease. Avon now makes a version of Skin So Soft with Picaridin, which is reportedly moderately effective when applied carefully and renewed every hour or so. I usually carry small bottles or Mylar packets of combined sun screen and effective insect repellent. Makes it easier to get it all done at once. Seems to be effective too. I usually choose the sunscreens that contain DEET but this year I may try the Picaridin or eucalyptus derivative just out of curiosity. |
We are spending the weekend in upstate New York where the tick problem is said to be bad. Friends from Florida are visiting us, and they're scared, so they'll be bringing tick repellent.
Sometimes, my wife and I inspect each other naked to be safe. I'll be telling my guests to do that with each other. |
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Originally Posted by tunavic
(Post 20390660)
It sometimes drives me crazy when in certain areas flying insects are buzzing around my face and at times it seems as if they're trying to crawl into my ears
I've used skin so soft from Avon. Very inexpensive and the link is for the one that uses synthesized plant oil. https://www.avon.com/product/skin-so...30-lotion-7894 |
[QUOTE=noglider;20394065]Sometimes, my wife and I inspect each other naked to be safe./QUOTE]
Good one. I'm going to give that a shot tonight and see how far I get with it. |
Originally Posted by JohnJ80
(Post 20394405)
Good one. I'm going to give that a shot tonight and see how far I get with it.
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Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 20394431)
:lol: She asked me to check her out!
This definitely has potential. |
thermacell.com offers Portable Repellers
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