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Old 01-11-19, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RGMN View Post
The DTM series is substantially smaller than the DT series, and shouldn't be too bulky on a bike.

FWIW NEVER use dielectric grease on the contacts. As it ages it create issues of its own, primarily fretting on the contacts, as well as becoming a sticky mess. NyoGel 760G lubricates the contacts and prevents fretting. And it doesn't dry out and create a sticky mess.
that's a good point about the DTM connectors... my experience was primarily with the DT's.

Regarding dielectric grease... I've never used it in either the earth moving industry or aviation. It's only been bike wiring where I've used it, and even then I mostly forget that I even have it. Haven't seen any problems yet, but maybe that's just dumb luck?

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Originally Posted by steelbikeguy View Post
Regarding dielectric grease... I've never used it in either the earth moving industry or aviation. It's only been bike wiring where I've used it, and even then I mostly forget that I even have it. Haven't seen any problems yet, but maybe that's just dumb luck?
I have it on every contact on the bikes, staying there for ages. Without the grease the contacts that are not golden usually go south pretty quick, at least on my bikes.
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I have used dielectric grease on car connectors, seems like a good idea. It's commonly used on cars and I always buy it at auto parts stores. It seems pretty inert, never seen a problem due to using it.
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Old 01-19-19, 09:55 AM
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How do contacts fret? Doesn't fretting require small repetitive mechanical motions? Electrical contacts on my bike stay connected for months or years at a time.
The pin & socket designs on most electrical contacts DO move relative to each other when they are mated due to vibration, stress on the wires, temperature variation, etc. Depending on the contact's surface finish and lubrication fretting will eventually happen. Contacts like Anderson Power Poles that use spring force to hold two overlapping contacts together are actually much worse for fretting, but their contact design anticipates this and the finish of the contacts minimizes the effect. Lubrication still helps.
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I have it on every contact on the bikes, staying there for ages. Without the grease the contacts that are not golden usually go south pretty quick, at least on my bikes.
If by "golden" you mean an actual gold finish, yes, I would not expect to see any issues with fretting. Gold is one of the only contact materials that typically won't fret in electrical contacts due to its self lubricating properties.
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I have used dielectric grease on car connectors, seems like a good idea. It's commonly used on cars and I always buy it at auto parts stores. It seems pretty inert, never seen a problem due to using it.
On a bike I wouldn't expect too many issues with dielectric grease on electrical contacts, but on vehicles I have reservations. Dielectric grease is typically silicone oil in a soap base to thicken it. The silicone oil will soften the silicone seals used on most electrical connectors, reducing the effectiveness of the seals. I've seen dielectric grease soften the nylon connector body, allowing the electrical contacts to get pushed out of the connector body and cause issues. When used on contacts the silicone will migrate out from the oil and/or evaporate, leaving behind the soap base. The soap base becomes sticky, and in many of the cheap dielectric greases can actually become abrasive to the finish of the electrical contacts, causing them to fail in use. I'd actually use petroleum jelly on contacts before I'd use dielectric grease.

The grease is really just making the contact gas-tight. It fills the gaps between the mating surfaces and prevents any gases like water vapor from getting in. ANYTHING that is soft enough but will allow the contacts to make surface to surface contact will work and, if the material will not migrate or wash out, will prevent deterioration of the contacts due to moisture. If that same material can also lubricate the contacts it will help prevent fretting damage. In my experience (30+ years engineering connection systems) NyoGel 760G is the best product out for electrical connections. Dielectric grease is pretty much near the bottom of the list (just above butter,) but is the most commonly specified due to its availability. It falls into the category of "it's better than nothing" but often nothing is better.
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Old 01-19-19, 10:39 PM
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I've used these quick connectors without any problems :

https://www.amazon.com/LanHong-Waterproof-Electrical-Connector-Marine/dp/B01F54PFLE/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1547958569&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=electrical+quick+connectors&dpPl=1&dpID=51meSzMW88L&ref=plS rch&dpPl=1&dpID=51meSzMW88L&ref=plSrch

The wires are about 20 gauge. There are other q/r styles that you may prefer, but check the wire gauge before ordering.
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