Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Electronics, Lighting, & Gadgets
Reload this Page >

Garmin Launches Strava & Komoot Route Sync

Notices
Electronics, Lighting, & Gadgets HRM, GPS, MP3, HID. Whether it's got an acronym or not, here's where you'll find discussions on all sorts of tools, toys and gadgets.

Garmin Launches Strava & Komoot Route Sync

Old 05-14-20, 03:17 PM
  #1  
Seattle Forrest
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Seattle Forrest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 23,208
Mentioned: 87 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18880 Post(s)
Liked 10,639 Times in 6,050 Posts
Garmin Launches Strava & Komoot Route Sync

I know Ride With GPS is the most popular routing platform at least for road. It sounds like they'll have the ability to participate if they choose to.

Today Garmin has released a new API that allows partners (namely, websites/platforms) to push routes straight to your Garmin, with no additional work for you. The first two partners launching today are Strava and Komoot, and from here forward, anytime you create a route and star/favorite it on Strava (or add it to your Komoot tours), itíll automatically show up on your Garmin. No frustrating half-baked Strava Connect IQ app to deal with, or clunky pairing steps. In other words, itís basically just like what Wahoo rolled out four years ago.

But whatís cool here is that you donít need some fancy new Garmin for this. Anything that supports .FIT file courses will work, and the line in the sand there seems to be since roughly 2009. So for example, the Edge 500 (old school review alert!!!) or Edge 800 will work with this. Whereas the 2007-based Forerunner 305 (even older alert!) doesnít quite make the cut since it doesnít support .FIT files (I tried).

https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2020/05/...e-old.html/amp
Seattle Forrest is offline  
Old 05-14-20, 05:13 PM
  #2  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 6,656
Mentioned: 35 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6042 Post(s)
Liked 9,144 Times in 3,949 Posts
I'd love to do this, but to flip that switch that DC Rainmaker links to, the Connect site has to open. And it won't, on my phone app or my computer.

As a new Edge 530 owner, I am about ready to return the device. When it all works, it's great; it just doesn't work much.
Koyote is offline  
Old 05-14-20, 05:29 PM
  #3  
ooga-booga
lead on, macduff!
 
ooga-booga's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: insane diego, california
Posts: 7,803

Bikes: 85 pinarello treviso steel, 88 nishiki olympic steel. 95 look kg 131 carbon, 11 trek madone 5.2 carbon

Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1481 Post(s)
Liked 2,616 Times in 1,429 Posts
hadn't hears of komoot before today. signed up for an account but dunno how much i'll use it. not the kind of rider that needs to plug in
routes for the most part. 90% of my rides are by feel, seat of my pants, whatever. was more curious to see if komoot was better than strava
at discerning/listing if a segment/road is dirt/paved or some mix of both.
ooga-booga is offline  
Old 05-15-20, 11:25 AM
  #4  
njkayaker
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 13,599
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3791 Post(s)
Liked 1,052 Times in 740 Posts
Originally Posted by Koyote View Post
....the Connect site has to open. And it won't, on my phone app or my computer.
That's odd. What happens?
njkayaker is offline  
Old 05-15-20, 12:32 PM
  #5  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 6,656
Mentioned: 35 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6042 Post(s)
Liked 9,144 Times in 3,949 Posts
Originally Posted by njkayaker View Post
That's odd. What happens?

I went back on later and it worked. I suppose too many people were trying to log on at once? At any rate, itís just the latest frustration. Garminís user interface totally blows. But Iíve now had this computer for about 10 days, and Iíve put so much time into figuring it out that I donít know if I wanna switch to a Wahoo Bolt.
Koyote is offline  
Old 05-15-20, 12:50 PM
  #6  
Steve B.
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: South shore, L.I., NY
Posts: 6,162

Bikes: Flyxii FR322, Cannondale Topstone, Miyata City Liner, Specialized Chisel, Specialized Epic Evo

Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2740 Post(s)
Liked 1,471 Times in 854 Posts
All fine except I fail to see how a Connect iQ app is "half baked". I press the iQ button ont he Menu screen, then select either RWGPS or TralForks, it takes a second or few to show me my routes, select a route and download. It's hard to make it easier then that. On my 1030 this has not yet failed to function as expected.
Steve B. is offline  
Old 05-15-20, 02:11 PM
  #7  
njkayaker
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 13,599
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3791 Post(s)
Liked 1,052 Times in 740 Posts
Originally Posted by Koyote View Post
I went back on later and it worked. I suppose too many people were trying to log on at once?
With the COVID stuff going on? It probably wasn't too many people!

In any case, I haven't anything about the Connect website having problems (that doesn't mean it can't happen; it just doesn't seem like a regular thing).

Originally Posted by Koyote View Post
At any rate, it’s just the latest frustration. Garmin’s user interface totally blows. But I’ve now had this computer for about 10 days, and I’ve put so much time into figuring it out that I don’t know if I wanna switch to a Wahoo Bolt.
People like the Wahoos. The Garmin 530 does much more than the Wahoo (which is kind of basic). (It's not like the Wahoos are perfect either.)

It's a bit confusing working out how the Garmins work. But they (mostly) work fairly similarly (which means if you can figure out one of them, it won't be hard to figure out another model).

The Garmin forums are a good resource for help.
njkayaker is offline  
Old 05-15-20, 02:18 PM
  #8  
Seattle Forrest
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Seattle Forrest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 23,208
Mentioned: 87 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18880 Post(s)
Liked 10,639 Times in 6,050 Posts
Originally Posted by Koyote View Post
I went back on later and it worked. I suppose too many people were trying to log on at once? At any rate, itís just the latest frustration. Garminís user interface totally blows. But Iíve now had this computer for about 10 days, and Iíve put so much time into figuring it out that I donít know if I wanna switch to a Wahoo Bolt.
I was able to use the site and app several times yesterday. Is it possible the problem could have been on your end?

I bet people would be happy to help with the learning curve of there's anything you're currently pulling hair out over.
Seattle Forrest is offline  
Old 05-15-20, 02:21 PM
  #9  
Seattle Forrest
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Seattle Forrest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 23,208
Mentioned: 87 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18880 Post(s)
Liked 10,639 Times in 6,050 Posts
Originally Posted by Steve B. View Post
All fine except I fail to see how a Connect iQ app is "half baked".
Never used it. DCR responds to comments on his site, you might ask there. The fact that this new feature works on an ancient unit like the 800 is pretty cool, and obviously not possible with CIQ. The first devices that ran CIQ were themselves a half baked implementation, I suspect the app wouldn't run on a Fenix 3 for example because of limitations in the memory devoted to CIQ.

At the end of the day it's good to have more options.
Seattle Forrest is offline  
Old 05-15-20, 02:22 PM
  #10  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 6,656
Mentioned: 35 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6042 Post(s)
Liked 9,144 Times in 3,949 Posts
Originally Posted by njkayaker View Post
With the COVID stuff going on? It probably wasn't too many people!

In any case, I haven't anything about the Connect website having problems (that doesn't mean it can't happen; it just doesn't seem like a regular thing).


People like the Wahoos. The Garmin 530 does much more than the Wahoo (which is kind of basic). (It's not like the Wahoos are perfect either.)

It's a bit confusing working out how the Garmins work. But they (mostly) work fairly similarly (which means if you can figure out one of them, it won't be hard to figure out another model).

The Garmin forums are a good resource for help.
Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
I was able to use the site and app several times yesterday. Is it possible the problem could have been on your end?

I bet people would be happy to help with the learning curve of there's anything you're currently pulling hair out over.
I appreciate the feedback and the offer, Seattle Forrest . I may take you up on that. I have been to a Garmin users forum and gotten some good help there and also have called their customer service a couple times. Maybe Iím just dense, but the user interface is very complex Ė needlessly clunky. And their online manual is a joke. But Iím hoping that Iíve now got it set up properly. 🤞
Koyote is offline  
Likes For Koyote:
Old 05-15-20, 02:33 PM
  #11  
njkayaker
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 13,599
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3791 Post(s)
Liked 1,052 Times in 740 Posts
Originally Posted by Koyote View Post
I appreciate the feedback and the offer, Seattle Forrest . I may take you up on that. I have been to a Garmin users forum and gotten some good help there and also have called their customer service a couple times. Maybe Iím just dense, but the user interface is very complex Ė needlessly clunky. And their online manual is a joke. But Iím hoping that Iíve now got it set up properly. 🤞
It might be easier with a touch screen.
njkayaker is offline  
Old 05-15-20, 03:24 PM
  #12  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 6,656
Mentioned: 35 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6042 Post(s)
Liked 9,144 Times in 3,949 Posts
Originally Posted by njkayaker View Post
It might be easier with a touch screen.
Yes, that would make it faster...But there would still be a plethora of submenus, and different menus for setting up the same functions (e.g., Strava live segments.) And it wouldn't address the issues with getting the app to sync (and stay connected to) the computer.
Koyote is offline  
Old 05-15-20, 04:14 PM
  #13  
Steve B.
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: South shore, L.I., NY
Posts: 6,162

Bikes: Flyxii FR322, Cannondale Topstone, Miyata City Liner, Specialized Chisel, Specialized Epic Evo

Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2740 Post(s)
Liked 1,471 Times in 854 Posts
Having watched the DCRainmaker YT, the feature seems to be that Garmin Connect treats Strava and Kamoots created routes/courses essentially the same and as if they were created on the Connect site, thus the routes would now also be shown on the Connect Mobile app. The DC YT shows how that Strava route shows up directly on the device. AFAIK, it only works that way if your device is connected to the Garmin Connect account via WiFi. I believe that if you only use BT it will not automatically sync but as with any course on Connect needs to be manually added from the GCM app to a device once they pair. At least that's the way my 1030 and 1000 always worked with Connect Mobile and ultimately that's really no quicker or easier than using an iQ app.

Advantage is that really old devices not iQ capable can use this method.

BIG issue is you will possibly have a boatload of routes to wade thru if you have every Connect course and EVERY Strava course and EVERY Kamoots course so good idea to clean up those accounts before syncing.
Steve B. is offline  
Old 05-15-20, 04:25 PM
  #14  
Seattle Forrest
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Seattle Forrest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 23,208
Mentioned: 87 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18880 Post(s)
Liked 10,639 Times in 6,050 Posts
Originally Posted by Koyote View Post
Yes, that would make it faster...But there would still be a plethora of submenus, and different menus for setting up the same functions (e.g., Strava live segments.) And it wouldn't address the issues with getting the app to sync (and stay connected to) the computer.
​​​​​​For what it's worth, this is probably the most common complaint about Garmin. You could spend the rest of your life reading people talk about their trouble using their Edge with their phone. It doesn't seem to be everyone, but it appears pretty common from all the complaints. As far as I know there isn't much rhyme or reason. Sounds very frustrating.

I've been using Garmin GPS watches for years, I stopped using an Edge computer long ago. The watches are 100% reliable with this, so much so that mine has prevented me losing my phone twice, the disconnected alert came on when it shouldn't have, and that was weird enough to stop me. I don't know why they can get it so right with the Fenix line and so wrong, apparently, with the Edge.

But it's not just you.
Seattle Forrest is offline  
Old 05-16-20, 06:40 AM
  #15  
Bassmanbob
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Treasure Coast, FL
Posts: 921

Bikes: 2014 Cannondale Supersix EVO 3, 2015 Trek 520, 2017 Bike Friday Pocket Rocket, 2022 Moots Vamoots Disc RSL

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 255 Post(s)
Liked 235 Times in 122 Posts
Iím so fed up with my Garmin 820 for not connecting with my iPhone. I started a thread about this months ago, took the steps recommended and now it wonít connect. The only way it syncs is if both my phone and Garmin are both connected to the same WiFi. The Bluetooth wonít connect at all now.
Bassmanbob is offline  
Old 05-16-20, 08:22 AM
  #16  
John_V 
Senior Member
 
John_V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 5,585

Bikes: 2017 Colnago C-RS, 2012 Colnago Ace, 2010 Giant Cypress hybrid

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 408 Post(s)
Liked 122 Times in 85 Posts
Originally Posted by Steve B. View Post
..... BIG issue is you will possibly have a boatload of routes to wade thru if you have every Connect course and EVERY Strava course and EVERY Kamoots course so good idea to clean up those accounts before syncing.
Same issue with Wahoo products. If you want to keep the routes to use again later, they will always get downloaded to the computer as long as they remain in your account. The workaround there is to have two accounts, a secondary account for the saved routes and a primary account as a connection to the service. With RWGPS, if both accounts are made "Friends" with each other, you can pin the route(s) you want downloaded from the secondary account and that will be the only route that you'll have in the computer. Unpinning the route after the ride will remove it from the computer on the next synch with the companion app leaving you with more memory to store rides. Screwy workaround but it works. I don't use Strava or Komoot to create routes so I don't know if you have to do the same thing as you do with RWGPS.
__________________
HCFR Cycling Team
Ride Safe ... Ride Hard ... Ride Daily

2017 Colnago C-RS
2012 Colnago Ace
2010 Giant Cypress
John_V is offline  
Likes For John_V:
Old 05-16-20, 02:06 PM
  #17  
Steve B.
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: South shore, L.I., NY
Posts: 6,162

Bikes: Flyxii FR322, Cannondale Topstone, Miyata City Liner, Specialized Chisel, Specialized Epic Evo

Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2740 Post(s)
Liked 1,471 Times in 854 Posts
Originally Posted by Bassmanbob View Post
Iím so fed up with my Garmin 820 for not connecting with my iPhone. I started a thread about this months ago, took the steps recommended and now it wonít connect. The only way it syncs is if both my phone and Garmin are both connected to the same WiFi. The Bluetooth wonít connect at all now.
On one hand the 820 was not considered to be one of the "good" Garmins.

OTOH, likely you need to periodically dump all your BT and related parts and connections between the phone and the device and just do a new pairing. I also dump the Garmin app off my iPhone when I do this so I know I'm using an up to date Garmin Connect Mobile app.

If it helps any, here's the complete Garmin BT setup instructions they sent to me a few years ago. I do this anytime I update the device or phone or when the BT Livetrack etc... gets flaky. It's written for the 1030 but is the same process for the 820.On the phone and in the GCM app, from the My Day page, select the More tab.

Select Garmin Devices in Garmin Connect Mobile

Select the Edge 1030.

Select the 3 dots on the top right and remove the device.

Remove from Bluetooth settings in your phone settings.

Remove Phone pairing from Edge
  1. Go to the Edge 1030 Menu.
  2. Select Settings.
  3. Select Connected Features.
  4. Select Phone.
  5. Select Pair Smartphone.
  6. Select Forget this Phone.
Turn off the phone Bluetooth.

Turn off your device.

Select the More tab, on the lower right.

Select Settings.

Sign out of Garmin Connect Mobile.

Double tap the Home button on your iPhone (the round button the front) and swipe off all the applications.

Restart the phone:

Once your phone boots up

My addiction - Uninstall and reinstall the mobile app.

Turn on Bluetooth and make sure that location services are on.

Go to Connect app and sign in.

Select, Browse All Compatible Devices.

Select Edge

Select Edge 1030

Put the Edge 1030 into pairing mode.
  1. Turn on device.
  2. Go to the Edge 1030 Menu.
  3. Select Settings.
  4. Select Connected Features.
  5. Select Phone.
  6. Select Pair Smartphone.
  7. Select Continue.
In Garmin Connect Mobile, follow directions to pair
Steve B. is offline  
Old 05-16-20, 02:51 PM
  #18  
Bassmanbob
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Treasure Coast, FL
Posts: 921

Bikes: 2014 Cannondale Supersix EVO 3, 2015 Trek 520, 2017 Bike Friday Pocket Rocket, 2022 Moots Vamoots Disc RSL

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 255 Post(s)
Liked 235 Times in 122 Posts
820 not one of the good Garmins? Man, it cost enough. I don’t want to derail this thread, but I’ll try your instructions and see what happens.
Bassmanbob is offline  
Old 05-16-20, 09:23 PM
  #19  
Steve B.
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: South shore, L.I., NY
Posts: 6,162

Bikes: Flyxii FR322, Cannondale Topstone, Miyata City Liner, Specialized Chisel, Specialized Epic Evo

Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2740 Post(s)
Liked 1,471 Times in 854 Posts
Originally Posted by Bassmanbob View Post
820 not one of the good Garmins? Man, it cost enough. I donít want to derail this thread, but Iíll try your instructions and see what happens.
Donít feel too bad, you could have gotten an early Hammerhead Karoo and 2 or 3 years later still be waiting for promised features.
Steve B. is offline  
Old 05-17-20, 07:43 AM
  #20  
unterhausen
Randomhead
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Happy Valley, Pennsylvania
Posts: 23,293
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 2,844 Times in 1,957 Posts
I think the 820 is one of the good garmins though.
unterhausen is offline  
Old 05-17-20, 08:10 AM
  #21  
njkayaker
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 13,599
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3791 Post(s)
Liked 1,052 Times in 740 Posts
The 820 is slow and does not have good battery life.

Other than that, it seems OK.

​​​​​
njkayaker is offline  
Old 05-17-20, 01:07 PM
  #22  
Steve B.
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: South shore, L.I., NY
Posts: 6,162

Bikes: Flyxii FR322, Cannondale Topstone, Miyata City Liner, Specialized Chisel, Specialized Epic Evo

Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2740 Post(s)
Liked 1,471 Times in 854 Posts
Originally Posted by njkayaker View Post
The 820 is slow and does not have good battery life.

Other than that, it seems OK.

​​​​​
Yes, thx for jogging my memory. When I was researching a replacement for my 810, I remember reading of complaints with really poor battery life. I ended up with a 1000 as result. I think the issues might have gotten resolved, according to what I read on DCRainmaker. .
Steve B. is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2023 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.