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Old 12-10-20, 04:50 AM
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Self made light from years ago

Here is a picture of lights I made years ago, before modern bright LEDs were available. I used two 6 volt lead acid batteries in a pack I wore around my waist. The lights were 10 watts, 20 watts, and 50 watts. I never left the 50 watt light on very long, as it would drain the batteries too quickly, but it was very bright when I wanted a good look at something in the dark.



Now I use lights with solar chargers, attached to the bike.
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That is pretty cool. Though I would go for a dynamo hub or USB charged lights they are pretty damn bright these days and in some cases way too bright (looking at you Lupine Alpha 7200 and CatEye Volt 6000)
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Originally Posted by veganbikes View Post
I would go for a dynamo hub or USB charged lights
I have mentioned before, the solar headlights can also be charged by USB. They also have a built in horn. If you spent many hours riding at night, and had cloudy weather, you may need to use the USB charger. I do most of my riding during the day, and they are always charged when I use them.

Next time I buy lights, I will consider other models. Someone should bring out a very bright light with multiple batteries and a solar charger.

In case you have not seen my other posts, here is a picture.


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Originally Posted by alo View Post
I have mentioned before, the solar headlights can also be charged by USB. They also have a built in horn. If you spent many hours riding at night, and had cloudy weather, you may need to use the USB charger. I do most of my riding during the day, and they are always charged when I use them.

Next time I buy lights, I will consider other models. Someone should bring out a very bright light with multiple batteries and a solar charger.

In case you have not seen my other posts, here is a picture.


How bright is that thing though? Also how loud is that horn? Solar is a cool idea but it seems rather bulky but would work on my Moloko bars which have some extra space.
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Originally Posted by veganbikes View Post
How bright is that thing though? Also how loud is that horn? Solar is a cool idea but it seems rather bulky but would work on my Moloko bars which have some extra space.
You will probably not find a brighter light using a single 18650 battery. It is brighter than all alternator/dynamo lights I have seen, but there may be some I have not seen. There are brighter lights, but they use more than one battery. It is good enough for ordinary cycling at night time. If you want to ride dangerous trails at high speed in the dark, you may want a light with multiple batteries.

The horn is louder than a bell, but not as loud as an air horn. I think there are 4 different modes, for 4 different sounds. I think there is a model with a horn and a model without, so get the right one.

It is not very big. It is 4.25 inches or 108 mm long.

Why don't you buy one or more, try it for yourself, and share what you think.

I actually bought 4 different different types of bicycle headlights using solar charging to compare them. This is the best of the ones I bought. It has the largest battery and the brightest light. There may be new models released since.
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Originally Posted by alo View Post
You will probably not find a brighter light using a single 18650 battery. It is brighter than all alternator/dynamo lights I have seen, but there may be some I have not seen. There are brighter lights, but they use more than one battery. It is good enough for ordinary cycling at night time. If you want to ride dangerous trails at high speed in the dark, you may want a light with multiple batteries.

The horn is louder than a bell, but not as loud as an air horn. I think there are 4 different modes, for 4 different sounds. I think there is a model with a horn and a model without, so get the right one.

It is not very big. It is 4.25 inches or 108 mm long.

Why don't you buy one or more, try it for yourself, and share what you think.

I actually bought 4 different different types of bicycle headlights using solar charging to compare them. This is the best of the ones I bought. It has the largest battery and the brightest light. There may be new models released since.
I might consider it at some point though the width seems a bit wider which is more the issue for me. However I have two excellent Light and Motion lights that are pretty and unobtrusive and then I have a Busch + Müller IQ-X on my touring bike and the Supernova E3 Pro2 on my Single Speed/Fixed Gear RandoCross FunTime Machine. I am pretty well flush with lights at this point and plenty bright. I will say the E3 Pro 2 isn't super bright but does just fine on dark trails at night and that is just fine by me.
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I like the solar light idea, but how well do they work at night?
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A solar panel that is convenient to mount anywhere on a bike, whether on the light itself or elsewhere on the bike, will not provide the same energy that you draw from a light. I think they are pretty useless for this application. You have to charge your light with a wall charger or an external battery (or a battery change if possible) or a dynamo. Dynamos are practical only in a few cases.
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Originally Posted by noglider View Post
Dynamos are practical only in a few cases.
Why do you say dynamos are only practical in a few cases? There is a ton of lighting and some super bright stuff also really lightweight dynamos and mounting capabilities for thru-axles, trikes, fat bikes, bromptons and other small wheelers plus a whole host of charging options. Also not to mention you can still get the old school bottle dynamos and rebuild some of the older ones as well (I have a friend who is using an old Schwinn one quite effectively to power some home-brew lights) I really don't see a whole lot of places it wouldn't be practical but I am rather curious to hear your opinion.

I guess I could see it as a tough one on a unicycle because I haven't seen any unicycle dynamo hubs. I could also see some issues with really low speed on some of them but I imagine that could be overcome.
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@veganbikes I imagine dynamos work for recharging but the expense and trouble to get it going needs to be justified by a lot of use. It would pay off if you're on the bike for a long period in the day and then away from an outlet at night. There aren't many situations like that. Most bike rides are just a few miles, and most people are near power outlets at night.

I use dynamos on a few of my (too many) bikes for powering lights. I figure they may enhance safety in the day so I run the lights whether I'm riding in the day or the night. The drag from my hub dynamo is pretty small. So I'm not entirely anti-dynamo.
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@veganbikes I imagine dynamos work for recharging but the expense and trouble to get it going needs to be justified by a lot of use. It would pay off if you're on the bike for a long period in the day and then away from an outlet at night. There aren't many situations like that. Most bike rides are just a few miles, and most people are near power outlets at night.

I use dynamos on a few of my (too many) bikes for powering lights. I figure they may enhance safety in the day so I run the lights whether I'm riding in the day or the night. The drag from my hub dynamo is pretty small. So I'm not entirely anti-dynamo.
Ahhh I see for charging non-dynamo lights I can see the yeah probably won't be as worth it but as someone who has certainly forgotten to charge lights often, dynamo lights are the best. I don't have to remember anything but how to ride which so far hasn't been a problem...LOL.
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Ahhh I see for charging non-dynamo lights I can see the yeah probably won't be as worth it but as someone who has certainly forgotten to charge lights often, dynamo lights are the best. I don't have to remember anything but how to ride which so far hasn't been a problem...LOL.
Yes I should say yet again that I love having a headlight powered by a dynamo. It does give a huge amount of peace of mind. When I got my first, I asked myself why I waited so long. A headlight needs a good amount of power, so you have to charge it every day or two. And if I forget if I charged it, there's always a little doubt. Will it discharge before I get home? With a dynamo, that question never comes up. It's great. Taillights are easier because they discharge much more slowly. My battery flasher can go a month. I run a dynamo taillight because why not but not because it's a huge improvement. I prefer flashing taillights, so I run both the dynamo taillight and a battery flasher.

But a dynamo for charging is something else. It's not a great win for most, and the expense is considerable.
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Yes I should say yet again that I love having a headlight powered by a dynamo. It does give a huge amount of peace of mind. When I got my first, I asked myself why I waited so long. A headlight needs a good amount of power, so you have to charge it every day or two. And if I forget if I charged it, there's always a little doubt. Will it discharge before I get home? With a dynamo, that question never comes up. It's great. Taillights are easier because they discharge much more slowly. My battery flasher can go a month. I run a dynamo taillight because why not but not because it's a huge improvement. I prefer flashing taillights, so I run both the dynamo taillight and a battery flasher.

But a dynamo for charging is something else. It's not a great win for most, and the expense is considerable.
I like a good solid light at the front and rear. If I am not on a bike with a dynamo I will usually flash or some sort of pattern to save battery but sometimes if I know I have fully charged and don't need the light the next day I will leave it solid.

I felt the same way about dynamos, why hadn't I done it sooner. I had briefly thought about it 4 years earlier than my first set up and said no too much weight I don't need it yada yada and I wish I had just done it.
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