Any New Developments in Non-Offensive Headlamps?
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<br /><br />Blinking/flashing whatever you call them are dangerous for the very reason I have described I literally have to close one eye and turn my head to look away from the road or path I am on so the idea of being safer and more visible is gone out the door. There are also people who actually have seizures and or have vision issues or just don't want to see a flashing light in their face coming toward them for zero reason when a solid light will do a better job. I get a flashing light in an emergency situation but those are beyond rare.
In the daytime, I think blinking lights have more effect on the "non-cycling" motorist than non-blinking mode does.
A "stagnant" bike light in the brightness of daylight just kind-of blends in with the scenery, typically only noticed by night-riding cyclists...
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You must be talking about blinking lights at night / in darkness. I have evaluated my blinking scenario in daylight and it does not create issues for me, or four other randomly selected participants -- I have exposed to the light at varying distances, from 5 to 50 feet away.
In the daytime, I think blinking lights have more effect on the "non-cycling" motorist than non-blinking mode does.
A "stagnant" bike light in the brightness of daylight just kind-of blends in with the scenery, typically only noticed by night-riding cyclists...
In the daytime, I think blinking lights have more effect on the "non-cycling" motorist than non-blinking mode does.
A "stagnant" bike light in the brightness of daylight just kind-of blends in with the scenery, typically only noticed by night-riding cyclists...
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Are you looking for dynamo headlamps or rechargeable types? Any STVZO-compliant light must have the vertical cutoff, so for example, Lezyne has a collection of STVZO rechargeables: https://ride.lezyne.com/collections/...caAgUZEALw_wcB
:-( "Thank you for contacting Lezyne. This light was designed for the German market, so we didn't stock it here. A few distributors did bring it in to the US, but it was a slow seller so I haven't seen stock in a long time.
It is now discontinued.
If you have any more questions or concerns, feel free to contact us.
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645 Tank Farm Road, Suite F, San Luis Obispo, CA 93401
Office: +1.805.548.8780"
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:-( "Thank you for contacting Lezyne. This light was designed for the German market, so we didn't stock it here. A few distributors did bring it in to the US, but it was a slow seller so I haven't seen stock in a long time.
It is now discontinued.
If you have any more questions or concerns, feel free to contact us.
Thanks,
-André
Lezyne
645 Tank Farm Road, Suite F, San Luis Obispo, CA 93401
Office: +1.805.548.8780"
It is now discontinued.
If you have any more questions or concerns, feel free to contact us.
Thanks,
-André
Lezyne
645 Tank Farm Road, Suite F, San Luis Obispo, CA 93401
Office: +1.805.548.8780"
Yeah, it looks like R2 is pretty well stocked on Lezyne STVZO and other stuff: https://r2-bike.com/navi.php?qs=Stvzo&search=
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You must be talking about blinking lights at night / in darkness. I have evaluated my blinking scenario in daylight and it does not create issues for me, or four other randomly selected participants -- I have exposed to the light at varying distances, from 5 to 50 feet away.
In the daytime, I think blinking lights have more effect on the "non-cycling" motorist than non-blinking mode does.
A "stagnant" bike light in the brightness of daylight just kind-of blends in with the scenery, typically only noticed by night-riding cyclists...
In the daytime, I think blinking lights have more effect on the "non-cycling" motorist than non-blinking mode does.
A "stagnant" bike light in the brightness of daylight just kind-of blends in with the scenery, typically only noticed by night-riding cyclists...
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I'm running dynamo lights on two bikes but have not yet converted the hub on my gravel bike. I have been very satisfied with this battery-powered light from B&M:
IXON Space - Busch + Müller EN (bumm.de)
IXON Space - Busch + Müller EN (bumm.de)
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I'm running dynamo lights on two bikes but have not yet converted the hub on my gravel bike. I have been very satisfied with this battery-powered light from B&M:
IXON Space - Busch + Müller EN (bumm.de)
IXON Space - Busch + Müller EN (bumm.de)
Considering I misplace many things, often never to be found, I thought it was just too pricey.
I recently acquired a Lumintop B01 and I love the warm light it emits with a good cutoff. A Kryptonite Incite X8 /XBR Taillight Set is on its way! BTW, the X8 kind of resembles the design of the Ixon Space.
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Cateye is doing StVZO in a large range of headlamps. Yeah, I think I ordered mine from some German internet outfit. They clip right into the Cateye mounts I've gathered over the decades.
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Trek has recently introduced their Commuter lights, with "Kindbeam", which cuts the light off at a horizontal line. I've been wanting to get one since I found out about them, and I got around to picking up the Commuter Pro RT today. I haven't ridden with it yet. First thoughts: The anti-glare feature is only engaged in "low beam" mode (steady 500 lumen output). It does not apply to "high beam" or day flash modes. Also, the owner's manual states that, "These lights do not conform to the German road traffic regulation StVZO."
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NiteRider Lumina Dual 1800 is a best buy in a serious night riding light with cutoff beam and long runtime per charge, which is readily available in the US. I've been using one for three years this summer and it's by far the best bicycle headlight I've tried.
However the Outbound Lighting lights look very good and I'll probably try one of those next.
However the Outbound Lighting lights look very good and I'll probably try one of those next.
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I'm not sure tech can fix the headlamp blinding problem. If you're being blinded, it's because someone aimed their light at you; presumably because they wanted to see you for some reason. Regardless of what you do to the light pattern, people will just adjust the aim accordingly. If you just reduce the light output, they probably won't buy it cause they want buy the blindingly strong light.
I'm glad I don't need to ride at night any more (retired) but no matter what, cyclist safety trumps any car driver inconvenience by multiple orders of magnitude. While irritating, a driver that has issues with glare will instinctively slow down and move away from the glare all of which, from my perspective as a cyclist, is a good thing. A cyclist has a fundamental need to have strong lighting for road defects and to be seen. And a cyclist has every right to be on that road at night.
I do notice that as I age, I have more sensitivity to glare. That's a result of aging, the beginnings of cataract formation etc... according to my ophthalmologist. If glare bothers you then you most likely need to be seeing the eye doctor more than you need to be worrying about what light a cyclist uses. We should have all been trained as drivers not to look directly at lights when night driving but to rely more on peripheral vision and that's a good lesson to recall now.
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